Nephila: Stina and Jacob – EP04 – Interceptor Beyond Podcast

Nephila is a musical spider with seven sprawling legs, rooted in 70’s space rock. Flashing guitar solos and Deep Purple-esque organ crawls like a red, pulsing thread through the songs of this Swedish band. And at the heart of it all – two voices join together in a mix of intricate parts and psychedelic melodies. Space ships collide with sound waves from 1969 as these masked musicians step on stage and bring the mystique.


Nephila released their self-titled debut album in the spring of 2021 through The Sign records and has since been described as “psychedelic hard-rock’s answer to ABBA”.


Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nephila.swe/

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Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCViS43BN-4TZL-B8lUXKYlw

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/5ZbjP0UFo6aonRXctRA4ju?si=jRtw4UEfT1-aO8ZP70YxiQ

Bandcamp: https://nephilamusic.bandcamp.com/

Episode Transcript

The transcript is done automatically and is not 100% accurate. There are many mistakes. The purpose of the transcript is to make it easier to navigate around the interview. 


Arthur   0:00  

Welcome to Interceptor Beyond podcast. My name is Arthur and today we have the Swedish Rock Band Nephila. Guys, could you please introduce yourself to our listeners?


Stina  0:09  

Yeah, of course. My name is Tina, and I’m a member of the band nephila.


Jacob  0:14  

My name is Jacob, and I also am a member of NetFlow.


Arthur   0:18  

And before we continue with the interview, I want to address our listeners. Dear listener, if you like this podcast, if you like what you’re hearing, don’t forget to follow and rate this podcast on Spotify, it helps a lot. Thanks. The first time I discovered netteller was on Instagram. I really liked how it looked. Everything was done with my idea in mind. Also seven people and obviously there were two singers. Yeah, then I checked out the band camp. And the first song was Bella Donna. And it’s my favourite song. That’s what I liked about the music and the style. And it seemed that you had this idea of the visual sound, the music right from the beginning, was it planned, or it just the whole thing develops as it goes?


Jacob  1:04  

I think that from the beginning, we had this kind of boring beginning where we started out as, like a rock cover band, and we met at our local school. But we had this, like crossroad, where almost all of our former members quit the band. And we had like, two options to either split the band and quit playing or like, evolve and become this NetFlow 2.0 thing. And it was when Steena joined the band that we decided to, like do this again. And more


Arthur   1:43  

Steena you joined around 2019 I think right?


Stina  1:46  

I think actually, it was like 2017.


Arthur   1:49  

All right, because I checked, I went all the way to the to the first post on your Facebook to check how you developed, you know, yeah, it was completely different. And for for a moment, I thought that I’m not recognising people, maybe it’s my thing, you know. And then I realised that the lineup was changing quite a lot. Right? Yes. Yes, I guess, who was the original members?


Jacob  2:12  

So there’s me, Josephine. And Joanne who plays keys will have two children. And see now, I think this Deena is like part of a original member cuz she she’s been a part of the whole development and the evolving. And nefler


Stina  2:31  

Yeah, I was kind of the first member that you recruited, like, after everything started over kind of,


Jacob  2:39  

yeah, so we have this kind of reincarnation, where we did a music video of all the old members and new members being a part of it. And, like, tried to tell the story of how we made this kind of new thing.


Arthur   2:54  

And for which song was it for which song was the music video? It was for growing down? For the first single? Yeah, yeah. When that’s when you change the visual style and became more theatre? Like, as I understand, what was the reason behind the masks? Was it inspired by other masked bands? Like, for example, I know, well, we all know ghosts. Yeah. But there’s also another Swedish band called goat, you know?


Jacob  3:22  

Yes. A few people actually asked us about this. And there’s also this band. There were a band called cenotes. Pot from Sweden. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And the bass is place in Skid Gala. Now, I was out playing with the script along with my other band. And we had this like discussion of when nefler started having masks and, and they found out that we had masks and kind of similar mask as well. So it’s kind of fun to actually meet someone who also had a band with mask members.


Arthur   3:57  

Yeah, the thing was the mask is that I checked all your interviews, and everybody’s including me asking you about the masks. Because yeah, it’s a thing. And you keep telling people that it’s, well, you it’s a myth, as you like to say, right?


Stina  4:14  

Yeah. Because like, I don’t think the originals story. Is that cool or interesting? No, but I’m usually the one who like gets to respond to that question. But the thing is that the masks were a thing, like long before I joined the band, and I’ve tried like asking the other band members like, what’s up, but like, no one can actually tell me when you started doing that. It’s like it just happened and it was a thing. And it’s just kept going.


Arthur   4:48  

I think you just should start at one point, inventing stuff and they will just join. Exactly. And actually that’s the cool part about your band is you have a good base for Cool story. You, you should definitely like invent something, make something I don’t know, like a story I don’t know, like, like a thunder hit a rock, and there’s seven stones or whatever. And then it all crashed into like seven members. I don’t know, because there’s a good potential because not so many bands have a story. Usually they just play music and that’s it. But if you have a story to it, you can it becomes a really good base for other elements like music videos, visual service. Yeah, live performance. Have you thought about it of developing it further?


Stina  5:33  

Yeah, of course, we have, especially you, Jacob, you’ve been talking about this a lot. We’ve tried, like we’ve had, I think several different like stories come up. But it takes a lot of work to, to kind of build a universe around the band that we know will last like in the long run. Because if you’re gonna build like a story, it needs to be kind of really kind of good. It needs to be a good story. So I think we’re working on it because or me personally, like, personally, if we’re, if we’re going to build a story, I think we should really make a good one. But yeah, we definitely have room for like some more charisma. And we should definitely, like do something with the masks as well. We should like incorporate them into the story, because it’s just so much more interesting to listen to, since people really want to know, like about the masks as well. Yeah.


Jacob  6:36  

And we have these kind of guidelines for ourselves. So so we are able to like write our own music and and how we’re supposed to look and that stuff and press photos. We don’t have an official like story.


Arthur   6:52  

Well, it’s like it’s like sort of corporate identity in a


Jacob  6:54  

way. Yeah, yeah. Like hairless? If you know them. Yeah.


Arthur   7:00  

Headless has one year they have the, the mythical world kind of.


Jacob  7:06  

Yeah, and it’s the same thing there that that, like, they are kind of private about their story or how they are live. And they’re like normal people outside the band. And I think that’s kind of good reference to help us because we’re also like, normal people outside of Netflix. But we’re more like, over like an act when we played together.


Arthur   7:30  

So what is the stage for you in this case? Is that opportunity to become someone else? Or is it an opportunity to be yourself your true self?


Jacob  7:41  

Well, I think it’s much easier to like, let loose and, like, become someone else and fully perform. When you don’t have to think about yourself. I don’t how do you think Steena


Stina  7:53  

Hmm, I think, for me, like in my private life, I’m quite a wouldn’t say call my collected person. But there’s just a lot of emotions that aren’t really like, okay, to express in your ordinary life, especially I think as a woman, it’s like, you know, being aggressive and like taking up space and being like, assertive, it’s just really freeing to be able to step on stage. And suddenly, it’s okay for me to like, be a lot. You know, I really appreciate that. And I think that’s why I was drawn to this genre as well, because it’s just so accepted to take up space in a way that I I’m not used to in my real life.


Arthur   8:44  

And was it easy for you to join an ephah?


Stina  8:48  

No, no, I don’t think so. Because I was quite young, and I, I like diving headfirst into a genre that takes like, a lot of vocal skill, which I’m still working on, because it’s, you want it you know, you want your voice to also be assertive, and full and strong. But it needs to also hold up. So yeah, it was like I don’t think I had the skills when I started. But I think like more and more as time goes by, I’m kind of growing into it.


Arthur   9:21  

Is it hard to be not the only singer in a band because we need to tell our listeners that there are seven members exactly in a band to singers and other people.


Stina  9:34  

Yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate not being the only singer because that’s like that was also part of the challenge. When I started like that you need to also work on like your vocal choices so that they match up with the other singer and you need to be able to sing in harmony, quite intricate things in harmony and make it sound really good. I don’t have a better word for it. But yeah, so it’s, it’s hard, but it’s also what I really like about it. Because, you know, I don’t I like a challenge, I think.


Arthur   10:11  

Did you have some background in singing? It was? Is it your first band? Or you studied in a musical score? Something like that?


Stina  10:21  

Yeah, I did. I did have some experience it was in I was in high school, I think I was in like, second year of high school. So I had been singing in school for like, a year, because we went to a music High School. And that’s also how we met. But yeah, it was it was only for a year. So I was kind of a small baby, you know. Um, now I’m actually I’m in my third year of doing my bachelor’s. I’m in my third year of Bachelor of a bachelor’s degree in music. So it’s like, it’s really different. Now. I when I when I listened to myself, like a few years ago, I’m like, Oh, my God. You poor child. But it’s so been so great, because you know, you’re forced to learn very quickly. And you’re, you’re, you’re forced to, like, just always become better. And that’s, you know, I’m very thankful for that.


Arthur   11:17  

How was it for you to play the first concert? First gigs? Oh, god.


Stina  11:21  

Yeah, I think I was nervous as hell, especially. Because since we have this stage show, you can just say whatever in between the songs.


Arthur   11:30  

And you should probably tell the listeners what kind of stage show it is, because they have no idea true. So it’s heavy on the visuals, as I understand, right?


Jacob  11:39  

Yeah, me, my dad likes to build things. So we the first thing that we built was this, what do you call them? Are the podiums, yeah, up podiums that we, like did them in this rusty tree colour organic thing, and we drilled some holes in them and put in some smoke machines, so we could control them. And forgive, go between all these holes in the podiums. So when you stand on that new look really, really cool. That’s my part of the visual stuff. I’m super bad at like, come up with ideas for concepts or stuff. But I like to, like, do things. Well, I’m kind of bad at build stuff, too. But I like to hire people that can build stuff. I like to be a part of the web somewhere in the middle. It’s like, we have this big, living room where when we play, we’re having large mats on floor and this podiums, and lamps and stuff to like, in high in chance the music in a way. And of course, my biggest influences when it comes to music are like Ben cysts, Alice Cooper from 75, welcome to my life, my show, and kiss. Of course, there are so many fun stuff you can do with elements of a musical show more than a basic rock concert. And I like to play with that.


Stina  13:13  

Remember the time when we went out into the woods and chop down trees?


Jacob  13:19  

Yeah, we had this kind of big show. In our weekend, where we come from, and there, we had to, like, fill out the stage with something so shutdown would have been on stage.


Arthur   13:35  

Well, that’s that’s the pure creativity working there. Is it easier when you have seven people? Like, for example, you said you like to build things and stuff, maybe each person in the band can like contribute to a band? Is it? Is it easier?


Jacob  13:49  

Yeah, in some ways, but also, there’s more responsibilities to hand out to people. And it can be really hard to give everyone a purpose with what they’re doing, besides playing the music. And I think that’s the hardest part to involve everyone in the band at all time. And also, when you’re seven members, there are like seven people to accept and look at the process. So there’s so many things that can go wrong on the way


Arthur   14:23  

so at the moment, I guess the responsibilities are limited to music, and maybe social media, something like this, or you actually try to decide that each person has a strict responsibility. How is it like


Jacob  14:37  

we kind of switch sometimes. So Steena has a huge role when it comes to social media and like the creative part of coming up with PR stuff like texts and stuff and Josephine does make the most of Facebook and Instagram and stuff. So we try to give everyone the purposes for doing things with the band besides playing, so we we can always be active when we’re not playing together since we live kind of far apart from each other to


Arthur   15:13  

Jakob, I guess that leaves that you need to do the Tick Tock now.


Jacob  15:17  

Yeah. At least love to do the TIC tock.


Arthur   15:21  

Are there any plans to go tic tock? I have no idea. How would it work for you? But I don’t know.


Jacob  15:27  

Maybe my little sister could do it or something.


Stina  15:30  

Would get bullied on Tik Tok.


Jacob  15:32  

Yeah. Since we’re millennials and grew up with Harry Potter and stuff, yeah, now when the the new generation has come, we are like, what you call them generation? Gen Z. Yeah. And the the boomers and the Gen Z has like, be more a part of probably we would be the one getting bullied at the end.


Arthur   15:55  

You should try it because tic toc is here to stay anyway, you need to try to do something with it. And I want to ask about the we talked about responsibilities. What’s about your music process? How its work? How’s it working?


Jacob  16:09  

Well, air we often do everything together. Or we have these demos, from maybe this debit album that we are released. There are a lot of songs that are old songs from the old nefler that we have reincarnated and made new ones of and burn mostly there are like I do most of the instrument departs. And I came up with this demo, and Steen and Josephine makes a melody and we try to give it this light touch. Since we’re a live band, and we record everything live.


Arthur   16:48  

Yeah, you first released a single. And then you came up with the album. And the album is already like super polished. In a good way. Of course, like the visuals are there concept is there. I really like it. How was the experience of making that album?


Stina  17:05  

It was very DIY, I think, wasn’t


Jacob  17:09  

it? Yeah, in some ways. Me and anthem did almost all the recordings in the studio where I studied at in soon. Yeah. Yeah. So but it started as an EP from the beginning, I think we recorded four songs.


Arthur   17:26  

So it was just, you were just recording songs and songs without any concept for the whole album? Or how was it?


Jacob  17:32  

Yeah, so we record these four songs for an EP to show people then in Netflix alive and doing new stuff again. But then I got this email from Kai at the sign records who had heard us from from somewhere and he was like, why have you done an EP, you should have done an album, no one listens to EPS. It’s easier to get reviews when you do an album. So we had to like force out for new songs as well. So that’s it took quite some time to record the whole album because there were like to process all the time to first record the EP and make that good. And then to do it all again and try to figure out how we did the first recording with the drum mics and guitar sounds and stuff. Right?


Arthur   18:24  

So what the Belladonna was the song was the new songs that you had to record or it was already on EP.


Jacob  18:32  

And I think that the EP was the new songs or four new songs that we recorded together. And when we had to do four more songs, we did four old songs or reinterpretation. Right?


Arthur   18:45  

Would you say that it would be it was easier to work under the pressure? Kind of because now you knew that you need to put more songs,


Stina  18:53  

what comes to mind like hearing us talk is I think obviously we seem a little more put together like outwardly than we actually are. A lot of times, things seem quite thought through. Because we put a lot of effort in but we don’t necessarily plan things out in like a very structured way. I think it’s because like most of us in the band are more doers and thinkers. So I kind of have a hard time actually looking back to the process because I think it’s like we kind of just took it day by day and step by step. And you just did what we had to do.


Arthur   19:39  

How long did it take you to record everything?


Jacob  19:41  

I think the EP, the first songs, we recorded that like two days or something, and we were like, we’re so fast. So someone we’re supposed to do the other part of the album. I think that if people had started to move away from our weekend, we’re almost all All of us lived at the moment. So that was a big part of things taking longer time than we thought from the beginning.


Arthur   20:08  

And did you record everything online? Are you aware or you were gathering somewhere in the studio?


Jacob  20:14  

Yeah, we, we did everything. We did the drums, bass guitars, and Keith live, life takes. And then we did the vocals and the Dubs. Afterwards, it was all about trying to find dates that worked for everyone, and trying to fill those dates with the recordings for the whole album. And I remember that, I think it was the second time when we recorded the second part of the album that we had, like, the first day to soundcheck and get a good sound. And when we’re when we’re trying to start recording the other day, the there were no electricity in Arica. Like, we had no sound and we felt that we had like, blew something up or destroyed the school. So we couldn’t record on like eight hours or something. So yeah, it was really hard to find the time to record the whole album.


Arthur   21:14  

Yeah. And everything. When


Jacob  21:16  

was digital, I guess? Yes. Recorded then logic.


Arthur   21:20  

And how was it to release an album during the pandemic? Well,


Stina  21:24  

obviously, you can’t promote it in the same way you would, when it’s not a pandemic. And you don’t really get to take part in like, all of the good stuff that comes out of it. You know, a lot of times you’re able to, I think, do more shows when you’ve put out an album. But of course, we couldn’t do that. So it was, I think we would have, it would have felt more real, if it wouldn’t have been a pandemic, because we wouldn’t have like been able to see in real life, like the reward and the consequences. But now, like all of the feedback was online, that’s still really good. And I think we’re still very, very grateful for all of the good response that we’ve had. But it was, I didn’t really understand people actually appreciate this. It was it was a little harder to like grasp, I think,


Arthur   22:16  

yeah, yeah. You had some really good response from magazines like you have. You’ve been featured in classic rock magazine, and other cool publication. How did you do that? Maybe you can tell a secret to the people we don’t


Jacob  22:30  

know. Is the short answer. But uh, yeah, ours record and design records, has done a great job to promote us to these magazines. And I think we have them to thank you for, like all the publicity where we’ve got for the album.


Arthur   22:51  

Yeah, I know that label. It’s a label that has other my favourite Swedish bands like Maida Vale, hot breath. We’re colonies and the drippers? I mean, I’m into the Swedish scene. It’s the water. Yes, that’s what other people’s keep saying. You couldn’t do it, the classic way, the promotion of the album. So how did you promote it on your own without the record? So I mean, how does it work with the record company?


Jacob  23:20  

So we have this guy called Valdemar? Who, who does our PR. And then so we tried to give him so much content as possible, like live videos, or music videos and quotes. He asked us about quotes all the time. So we have to try to come up with like these great quotes to like, get all the publicity we can since we can’t really do any live gigs. And these days a he’s part in in this process has been to like get us to do something with the material we have. So like we did this video for Belladonna. I think it’s me Joe and and David Horne, the only members that had get the opportunity to actually meet and do this video. But it was better to do this. With only us three in it than not having a video for but I don’t know.


Arthur   24:19  

Yeah, the video is cool. I saw it. It’s on the channel of the sign records fits the music perfectly. Everybody should check it out. And did the people at the label. Did they ask you about the story? Yeah, so


Jacob  24:31  

a chi who is the boss? He? I think he you and Kai had most of the males and like you talked a lot in the beginning, right?


Stina  24:43  

Yeah, it’s clear that chi is kind of a mastermind. He knows what he’s talking about. I tried to kind of be a part of creating, like a marketing plan. No, it’s not called marketing plan. It’s called promotion plan. But I think eventually he kind of realised that I’m no good in that area. I have a way with words like I’m able to, if someone asks me, like, we need to describe our music or whatever for, like, release or something, I can come up with something to say, but like, you know, the thinking ahead, like, oh, we’ll start by doing this. And then people will notice us, and then we do this and like, not not as good at that part. Um, so yeah, we had some discussions, and I realised that like, yeah, he really had like, a plan. And he really had like, this ability to, he knew, like how the industry works. So I was so you know, I tried to, to do my part and all of that. But, um, mostly by just having a way with words, I


Arthur   25:54  

guess. Did you ask the, the label people, I call them the label people? Did you ask why they chose you? And how did they discover you? Because so many bands want to get signed or have an opportunity to be signed by a label? I mean, you’re a band that some for some bands, it’s a dream come true, for example. So again, any secrets,


Jacob  26:17  

I think that we took some years to develop a sound or our own things in a way. And I think that that was a big part why Kai found us and chose to sign us. But also we were mailed, of course, different labels, and tried to send them demos. And I think if I’m emailed the, the sign record two years before we released this album, and I got a response two years later with the It began with sorry for the late answer. So it takes it takes time, obviously. Yeah. And we’ve we’ve not been around for so long. Five years. Now. Maybe


Arthur   27:04  

I in some interview, I read that you won a competition and the label noticed you there anything?


Jacob  27:12  

Oh, yeah, maybe that’s what support.


Arthur   27:18  

Alright, so winning competition is a good tip. I guess


Stina  27:21  

winning a competition is a good tip. And also, since I know, I’ve said this 100 times, but I’m obviously not a mastermind, I have not been a part of like, do, you know, doing this really smart plan? To bring us to where we are, like, I think when you say when you say that like or it can it can kind of kind of come off as like, oh, it just happened, you know, we didn’t have a plan, we just, you know, did our thing. Like, it’s it’s not like that, of course, we have been jumping on the opportunities that have come around, like, and if we know that something could be a good opportunity, of course, we’ll take it. But there’s something to be said about, like entrepreneuring. And like, you know, having a plan about how to get yourself noticed. But also, like, sometimes it’s easy to forget, like that there really goes so much time and energy into also creating the content content that you’re trying to promote. Yeah, it sometimes it’s easy to like get stuck in plans. And it’s sometimes it’s easy to get stuck in master plans. But what really needs to be done is like, first of all, list the groundwork so that you have something to present, I think,


Arthur   28:44  

yeah, the music should come first. Yeah, and then everything else goes. Because if you concentrate too much on for example, social media. Yeah, you might be it might look that you’re doing something but in reality, sound can suck. And you just haven’t worked on it properly. And your social media will not work. Excellent. User comes first always Yeah,


Stina  29:05  

and I really get that people want want there to be if you just do this and follow these steps, it will happen. I get why it would be like a really the world would be so wonderful if there was like certain steps you could follow and like everything would be fine. Or you know, it’s like this old saying that like like if you work hard enough, everything will come your way. Yeah, that’s true, but maybe not just working on on like the whole marketing thing or the entrepreneurial part but also like working on your skills, your skill set and working on really producing something that you’re proud of. I rarely think about this myself, but like I I’m very grateful for being a part of a band where I have very talented band members like everyone has worked really hard and like becoming good at what they do. And you know, getting good at their instrument. And I just, of course, that’s it just sounds like yeah, of course, they’re good at their instrument, but like, the stage show wouldn’t be fun to look at or listen to, if we didn’t, like, do all of the groundwork and practice and all of that, you know, this was kind of a rant, but around, you get what I’m saying.


Arthur   30:24  

So good. I mean, it just proves that. That’s why well, first of all, that’s why the music is good. Secondly, all those magazines that reviewed you I mean, there’s a reason why they do that, you know, I mean, if if you sucked as music as a musician, it wouldn’t happen.


Stina  30:41  

Yeah, no, um, it sounds like I’m trying to was a call like, brag about us. And that’s completely not at all what I’m trying to do. But I just think that’s, it’s kind of hard for me to talk about, like tips and steps, because just for me, personally, I put it more of my effort into maybe like working on on my skill set right now, that’s maybe where I put more of my energy.


Arthur   31:09  

So what’s your relationship with the labels, so now, you can concentrate more on music, and they do the marketing and promotion, I think


Jacob  31:18  

I have the most contact with the label at the moment, since I have other band on the label as well. So So I already had the contact with Kai, when we started to sign their nefler to the sign records. He said that it can take up to two years, or one year to get recognition when you have released on the debit album. So he was like, become, it will take some time to get people to hear the album when it’s have been released. So now we’re trying to like do fun things. Like we did a live show in a bowl, the children’s already called Orphans orphanage home, right? We did a live session there. And we’re planning on releasing that. And we have some fun, secret stuff that has been postponed now since the pandemic. So we’re trying to do stuff to promote the album, even though it’s really hard to do anything, but the record is really good. Since we also live kind of close to each other, we can chat with each other, we can call each other we can visit them if we want to, it’s really good to have that relation with the person that you know his face. And you know who he is. So it doesn’t feel like we were getting fooled or tricked by them at any time. So it’s really nice. And it feels really safe to have our label so close to us


Arthur   32:48  

when I talk to musicians these days. And I asked them about if they want to get signed. And most of them always say, Well, yeah, of course we want to get signed want to play festivals and everything. But we know about the bad reputation of labels that you get usually tricked. Well, it sounds that with you, it was everything’s fine, right?


Jacob  33:09  

Yeah. So like, we don’t earn a lot of money or so. But we get a lot of help to like, produce an album and find an artist for the artwork and produce the vinyl and CDs. That’s all the label. They they help us so much with economic stuffs


Arthur   33:27  

on your Bandcamp eyes so that this album, the latest one you have, so okay, not sold. But originally, they’re like 500 copies of vinyl and 1002 copies of CDs, which are like amazingly huge numbers. And you almost sold it out, as I understand.


Jacob  33:45  

Yeah. And that’s only on the Bandcamp very aware of selling it to Brazil, where we have another label called Helion. And so so we’re like selling to stores and CDs. And it’s fun to to get a call from your label that and having them say that you have sold out your first copies as we did kind of fast because people bought into their stores and I record stores. Yeah, it’s really fun and feels kind of amazing to be in an upcoming or we don’t have so much followers or fans. So it’s fun to see people actually buying the record.


Arthur   34:29  

But most of the time you see these people online, you didn’t have so much concerts as I understand.


Stina  34:36  

Yeah, no, this because of COVID.


Arthur   34:39  

Yeah. So you mentioned the, the stage show, you know, so how how much do you practice the stage show within?


Jacob  34:48  

Kind of much? Yeah, at the time were when we were playing at this, like her salon. What do you call it? Competition Yeah. And then we were really focused on how we look and how we perform each song and the talk between the songs scene and just feeling like the script. There was really good. And I think that’s also was a part why we won the competition at the end. So maybe nowadays we’re, we don’t have the time to or it’s so hard to focus on doing this live show when you don’t have a goal with it. Like, we did one live gig this summer, a COVID gig in Linz shopping. So it’s really hard to like focus on live stuff right now.


Arthur   35:42  

And what did you learn from the recording of this album? I mean, it’s been almost like how much? Half a year right? Around? Yeah, what did you learn from the recording of this album?


Jacob  35:54  

Maybe two? Or for me, it’s to, like, do stuff and let it go. So record and be done with it don’t like take 15 More takes of a song. Yes. It can be like, slightly better. So it’s like, do it and let it go. Let someone mix it don’t mix it yourself.


Arthur   36:20  

Which we didn’t. Alright, and Steena for you,


Stina  36:23  

I think talking in a circle, I feel like but um, it’s just because like, all of your question gets me thinking a lot. So I’m like, Oh, just like it all. For me. Like everything you say, just comes back to like, ooh, planning. What does that mean? Like, but yeah, maybe that you, you need to work, you need to be a doer, but also kind of a sink. Or sometimes, you know, there needs to be a balance and maybe kind of a plan. But also that, like, I think the next time we record, I’m not going to be in school. And that’s going to be like, the first time, I’m a part of this band. And I’m not in school and having like, already a 40 hour or more, usually work week, on top of like, the band thing, it taught me that, you know, everything about running a band requires a lot of time and energy, and you need to be be able to also like say no to other things to make time for it if you want, like a good and well put together results.


Arthur   37:28  

Say no to which things for example,


Stina  37:30  

um, it’s hard for like, to give an example, because since I’ve been in school, I’ve been able, yeah, birthdays, you know, don’t need a social life. Fuck that. No, but no, but like, I’ve been in school all this time. So I really, really didn’t really have the opportunity to say no to anything, but like, I mean, if I would have had the opportunity, I would have wanted to put less hours into work and more hours into the process to be able to have or to be able to actually, like follow kind of a plan, you know, be part of all the different aspects of the process. And, you know, like, be 100% invested in, in more parts of it, not just my part, you know, my part, which was like singing and you know, songwriting and stuff. And also social media, it would have been, it would have been so cool to be able to actually, like, have taken some hours from like, work and put them into the project, whatever we’re doing with a band. And I think that’s kind of relatable for everyone who runs the band, but like, it’s it’s hard to prioritise, prioritise, sometimes to make life work, because, yeah, make it work with the band, because everyone usually has full time work on the side, you know,


Arthur   38:51  

and what’s the plan, actually, for this year for the band,


Jacob  38:55  

so we started to have these writing sessions now. Then, we tried to write our second album. And now with the biggest we got, it’s easier to like think of a concept before we do the songs. Last time, it was like the other way around within the songs. And later we did like a concert of those songs. But now I think we can put more effort in, like the whole, the whole album, and I think it’s going to be a better album, I hope. And, and if it feels like we have all the time in the world now, since we can’t actually tour or do any gigs at all. We have time to like, process, new songs and like come up with new ideas. And the hardest part is to actually get all of us to gather at the same time. So we did the session last week where we did it at zoom, and it’s I think you’ve worked kind of great actually, yeah, it was hard to be a part all the time. But you could sit there and like, eat your food and listen to the ideas and new songs. But you could also like contribute. I had my acoustic guitar. So I can like that, hey, we could do it like this, or something. And we had a studio dog, where Anthon or other guitarist, he could like, record all the stuff we came up with. So it was it’s kind of fun process to to not be able to see each other. Yeah,


Arthur   40:32  

it seems that you are one of the few bands that accepting the idea that it’s possible that there will be no concerts. Have you tried any live streams doing live streams concert, it’s super awkward. I know. But


Jacob  40:49  

it’s so awkward. And I’ve seen a few that are that are really great, like rival sons did too. And that was amazing. I pre recorded though, so it wasn’t live. But I think that’s maybe future way of doing it. Cuz you have so much more. Like you can do so much more if you’re pre recorded. But I think that people are I don’t feel like it. But it feels like some people can feel like they’re getting fooled. That edit that is not live. And for a band like us, it feels like if we’re doing a live stream or something, it’s hard to get people to watch it since they could watch any concert in the world at YouTube.


Arthur   41:35  

Well, it’s it, we’re still early stage of this life strength thing. And I feel we will soon figure it out. I was thinking that, for example, pre recorded concert can go separately from the live concert. So for example, you record it as like, for example, a huge recorded concert, and you could sell it separately. And the live concert is a different thing. It repeats the whole thing. But it’s just the live thing with the live sound. I think there’s a huge potential and that


Jacob  42:05  

another really hard part of the live stream is it’s hard to get people involved. Like you’re trying to give 100% on a stage and you’re like head banging and shouting and running around. And you know that some people are sitting in their couch watching this. It’s just so strange. It’s hard to make it like a union of people watching a real concert.


Arthur   42:31  

Yeah, it’s probably going to be its own thing. I don’t think we will call it a concert in the traditional sense to be completely something new. Are you planning to? You’re planning to work on the new material this year? Yeah, cuz I understand. We do have a concept. And also you do have a concept,


Stina  42:51  

we do have a concept. Was that?


Arthur   42:55  

Do you have a deadline or timeline or something when you are going to release the new material?


Jacob  43:00  

Well, it’s, it’s really hard because we had this like, kind of big thing in Sweden going on. And yeah, I can’t really talk about it. But it’s, oh, come on, postpone as I said, I really want to talk about, but I can’t, hey, you have no idea. But so we had, like, our label involved in it. And we’re focused on like doing this market plan for this event. But it feels like everything just hangs around in the air now. And it’s an ice because of this thing, because we have to put a lot of effort in this thing. And when that gets official, I think it will be easier to like present new material for people and like gigs and shows that I think we have to like climb this cliff first.


Stina  43:55  

Yeah. But was I allowed to say that we do have a concept?


Jacob  43:59  

Yeah, yeah, sure.


Stina  44:02  

I get nervous.


Jacob  44:05  

You’re a part of the band. You can do whatever you want.


Arthur   44:09  

Yeah. No, your interviews, especially in the beginning, just before the release of your latest album, you didn’t know if you’re allowed to say this or that I noticed.


Stina  44:20  

Yeah, the whole thinking things through you know, well, I think I’m really stoked about having a concept like to root ourselves in when writing and working on new material, because I think it’s gonna contribute to like, slowly starting to more and more like build a storyline around the band and you know, kind of maybe moving towards that more of a like thought through image. I think it’s gonna help us on the on that road, be a little more prolific. So yeah, I’m really stoked about it. And I’m also really stoked to be able to put more more time in it in more time into it, because I’m going to be graduating soon. So that’s going to be really nice.


Arthur   45:07  

Another benefit of the good concept is that you can go beyond music, even though the music is in the centre, the author surrounding stuff, for example, with the band Chemical Romance, they had a comic book, they release something else. I don’t remember, but there was a lot of stuff around the band. That’s why the concept is really important. Yeah, you’re


Stina  45:26  

so creative. Can we hire you? Like, yeah, you’re you, you, you’re just you’re coming like you’re spitting ideas at us right now. It feels like we’re having like a development session or something. I love it.


Arthur   45:46  

Well, because because my main job is working with musicians and helping them to go to the next stage. And I do everything but not music. I make music, videos, animation, marketing and promotion. Just don’t do music. I know how to talk to musicians. And that’s why I can bring their visuals to the outside world. And that’s my thing. But I’m genuinely interested in bands and musicians to succeed, because that’s where I come in. And then when I can make myself because I like for example, animation when I can do animation.


Stina  46:20  

It’s really inspiring to talk to you. You’re really like, you’re setting things off. Like I’m starting to think about a lot right now.


Arthur   46:28  

Well, it’s, it’s all happened when I saw your Instagram, I saw that, okay, you have visual, you can work out, you can work on concept. You have a nice album, plus, I know that you are signed, and the next album is going to be also great. So I mean, there is a good base for creative stuff. I’d say like this.


Stina  46:48  

Thank you for saying that. And thanks for taking the time. Like we’re we really appreciate it.


Arthur   46:52  

Yeah, we’re we’re almost done. I wanted to ask, Where can people follow Mithila you can


Jacob  46:58  

follow us at Facebook, Instagram Bandcamp not tick tock yet, though. You can mail us on our Gmail can call me on my number on Facebook.


Arthur   47:11  

Actually, I called you today and you didn’t pick up? Yeah.


Jacob  47:15  

Yeah, it was a word. And I saw it was from Austria. And I was like, No, it’s a seller, probably. And you call again. So I was like, huh,


Arthur   47:24  

yeah, I call those like, okay, okay. You have a number I will call it I will call it I would say Yeah.


Jacob  47:30  

Yeah. And I was like, Have I missed something? And that’s not a new, like, mindset for me feeling that I have missed something. So, so I looked you up and I saw Yes. I didn’t miss something. Or I will speak to him soon.


Arthur   47:47  

Yes. All right. Yeah. But for me, it was important to see if you gave a bullshit number for some whatever organisation or was true, you know, I was already like, saying something in Swedish.


Jacob  48:00  

Yeah, don’t call us. Don’t call us.


Arthur   48:02  

No, no, no, it’s good that people can call you maybe make it a separate number then. But yeah, it’s a good idea. All right. Which song are we going to hear the end of the episode? I want


Stina  48:14  

to suggest like Alexis syndrome, but I think Jacob might object to that. Nope. No, go ahead. Thank you.


Arthur   48:23  

So it’s the last song of the album, right? Yes. Yeah. Either you hate it or you’re like perfect. Steena Antiochos Thank you very much for agreeing to this interview. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you so much. See me for y’all. See yo sit. For y’all So so oh God. At the end of the day, Amelia nuts T be the day C span?


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