Anelise, Fabio

0:05HostOne, two, three, four. Welcome to Interceptor Beyond Podcast. Today my guests are Anneliese and Fabio.

0:13Yur MumHello listeners. So we are your mom and I am Anneliese. And I'm Fabio.

0:22HostAnd before we continue with the interview, I would like to remind our listeners to follow this podcast on Spotify or any other platform that you prefer. Go ahead, just press follow, subscribe, whatever. It will help the podcast a lot. Thank you very much. Guys, I discovered you like these days I discover bands on Instagram and I'm doing the wrong thing. I completely judge the book by its cover. I don't know. It's my thing now these days. And I really liked your Instagram account. You know, it's like super polished and like really juicy covers. Yellow is one of my, probably my favorite cover. So I was like, okay, yellow. All right. I'm going to check it out. You know, hopefully, hopefully, you know, and I checked out your music and I really liked it. Like really loved it. You know, like all your albums, really good stuff. Energetics, you know. Thanks. And yeah, that's my part. My boring part of talking.

1:15Yur MumNo, that's not boring at all. Like I've never heard that someone that liked us through the color. So that's already something new for us. I like this. Yeah, I love it. And you describe their music is very yellow. Yeah. Sunny, yellow, energetic, passionate.

1:34HostHow did it all start?

1:36Yur MumOh, so I don't know how far back you went on Instagram in terms of stalking, but it started as a three piece 2016, 15.

1:48?Yeah.

1:49Yur MumKind of. Yeah. And then like long story short, three piece, one album and one EP. And then our guitarist left for new adventures. And then we've decided to adventure ourselves as a two piece. And then here we are since. And that's when Tropical Fuzz, the album, came up.

2:09HostAnd I know here comes the Austrian connection that I found. Is that you were inspired by the band White Miles.

2:16Yur MumYes, absolutely. Yeah, that's true. They, we, when we've seen them the first time, they were supporting Eagles of Death Metal. And so we didn't have any expectations. But we always like to see the support band being, being a band that is starting ourselves. So we're just like, let's support, you know, the big band, the small bands and see how they are and so on. And we, I remember us being absolutely kind of love of the first sight and hearing as well. Like it was, I'm, I love how, how she's describing a small band that's playing. I know, no, I know. Fuck off. Well, I was to tell you, it was the Shintish Town Academy. Yeah. All right. Three, three or 4,000 people. I mean, okay. So, so no offense, White Miles. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it that way. But like, as a, as a support band then. So ignore the, the small band bit. Smaller than the headliner, but still we, we, we had much more fun watching them, to be honest.

3:15HostThan Eagles of Death Metal.

3:16Yur MumOh yeah. Can I call you Art? Is that okay? Sure. My accent for Arthur is not pristine enough, but.

3:25HostThere's no pressure, no pressure.

3:26Yur MumAt the time we discovered White Miles, we were actually playing a different band. It was a completely different setup. And we played a kind of a fusion of electronic music with rock. And we were doing that for a few years and we were kind of missing out the fun of playing live instruments, you know, where you can fuck up, you can change the tempo, you can play faster, slower, you know, that roller coaster that drummers do. And by accident, we saw White Miles and we were completely in love with them. And I remember we had this conversation like, wow, this is what we should be doing. You know, we should be having fun on stage. And we actually, I don't think at that time, I know, I'm lying. We had seen other two piece bands, right? But White Miles was like, but White Miles was like, completely different. The energy and the attitude. It was like, wow, this, this is the thing, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it was the energy.

4:25HostWhere was it? And when?

4:27Yur MumThis was Kentish Town and it was Bush 2000, I would say maybe, I don't know, 13, 14 or 14. It's a bit of an awkward story because it was one week before they play at the Bataclan. I don't know if you remember. Oh, yeah, I remember. When was the Bataclan massacre? So we met them one week before that show. And we actually, we went to the merch stand. We talked to them.

4:52?Yeah.

4:52Yur MumAnd we also talked to the guy who was their friend, who was killed. We met that guy as well.

4:59HostDamn, man. Yeah, I remember that. Everybody remembers that. So this was right before, just before you, before your mom, right? Yeah. So then you started your mom. It was one of the main inspirations, right? And then you went as a duet.

5:16Yur MumThen we went, we started as a trio and then we went as a duet. And this is how we decided to remain forever.

5:25HostAnd how did you record it? At home or somewhere in the record studio?

5:29Yur MumNo, we went for, we went for a studio that we, we've recorded the EP in this studio. It's Anchor Baby Studios. It's in the middle of nowhere in Kent. The first album we did in a church. Yeah, but we're talking about the transition and then we did. Oh, the transition. As a two piece, no?

5:46?Yeah, yeah.

5:47Yur MumLet's talk about the future. Let's talk about the present.

5:49HostYou can jump from, from, from topic to topic. It's not, it's not an interrogation. It's a conversation.

5:58?Okay. All right.

6:00HostFree your minds.

6:01Yur MumSo let's free our minds and let's talk about all the places. No, the first, so the first album we recorded in the church in Leeds, right? Yeah. And that was pretty cool.

6:10HostSo you, you, which, which one is it? Is it Road Rage, the album?

6:15?Yeah.

6:15Yur MumRoad Rage.

6:16HostRoad Rage in the church.

6:18Yur MumBecause the studio was kind of a converted church, no? So we stayed there as well. No, they did a brilliant thing. They had two big studios. The main one, as you can imagine, was in there, that main church hall. So really interesting acoustics. They also offered accommodation to the bands. So we stayed there for four or five days. Yeah. During winter. Leeds in winter is not the place to be, man.

6:45Yur MumNo, but yeah. But it was, it was pretty cool. It was, it was, for us, it was, I don't know. We were just feeling that, ah, that, that sensation. Ah, we're recording and we're staying like four days now together. The three of us in a small room, going to the supermarket and then just buying beers, like not taking it that serious as well. Like it was just like, oh, the TV was not working. So we were stuck with some DVDs and that's how I got to know Primus. I've never heard Primus before and they had a whole Primus live DVD. And I was absolutely in love with the guy and the way he plays the bass. Oh, funny thing. This, the, the studio, after they closed at night, they would locked us, they would lock us in. Oh yeah. So we couldn't go out. For which reason? For security reasons. So we were there and there was like this alarm system. So we had to stay in the accommodation, the accommodation, they had like a PlayStation one and a DVD player and they had like a Nirvana, a Ramones and a Primus DVD. So we watched that for five days.

7:51HostI don't know. I mean, probably the first night it's okay, but then after the second night, maybe you go a little bit. Yeah.

7:58Yur MumYeah. Yeah. That's true. It was, it was proper weird. It was, it was kind of forcing us to, to live together. Well, me and Fabio, we are a couple, so we already know how the deal is living together and 24 seven, but with Akos, which was our guitars at the time, even though we're doing gigs and, and recording and so on, but never like stuck in a room. For long. Yeah. 24 hours. We survived. And we had food poisoning. Food poisoning. They had food poisoning. I was lucky I escaped that, but then I smelled both of their shit.

8:30HostSo that's when like intimacy, you know, you had the pandemic experience before the pandemic.

8:35Yur MumOh yeah. Yeah. Wow. I never thought about that. Me too. But it's true. It's very, very true.

8:41HostBut it's funny because after that you decided to go like, it happened, it happened that now you're a duet, so you probably killed the guy and ate him.

8:51Yur MumIt's too wandering.

8:52HostThat's why you have the food poisoning, but you don't accept, like, accept what you did.

8:59Yur MumYeah. Yeah. We didn't cook him properly. No. Fucking Brazilians that like their steak, medium rare.

9:07HostActually, yeah, you mentioned Brazil, right? So we need to mention to people. Did you mention, I don't, I don't think you mentioned that you're Brazil. Can you explain to the listeners, please?

9:17Yur MumGo for it. I think I'm talking so much. Are you? Because I can go on.

9:23HostLike, I know sometimes I need to, you just, one of you should just talk all the time because I don't want to talk. It's not my asking silly questions and that's it.

9:31Yur MumSo we met, we met in Brazil. Yeah. Ages ago. Ani, at the time, she was working in a rock bar that I used to, to go to. And then when we met, we started talking about music and stuff. And I remember like one of my, my things is I was thinking, oh, I really wanted to make some music with you, you know, at the time I had a band with my sister and I, you know, in my head, I thought it would be really cool if you had a band with two, two girls playing and killing it. You know, this is back in 2008 or something.

10:07?Yeah.

10:07Yur MumSo, yeah, back then, especially in Brazil, you didn't see many, many female musicians in, in the rock scene. And then from that, so we moved to London. So we got married, moved to London. And then in a way, we didn't start a band straight away. We took a while. We kind of quit music for a while. So we were kind of, let's just leave and do the norm thing. Let's get jobs and pay bills, you know, you're in a foreign country, you don't have family or anyone to help you. Everything costs really expensive. So for a year or two, we just focus in surviving. Yeah. And that's when we, we kind of started having cheap Saturday nights with our buddy, Gabriel. So he was, was with him that we did the first band here, Plastique. And the whole idea was just like, oh, let's just listen to music, music we cannot hear in the clubs and so on. But we would love to, to, to hear that and having a beer and talking and so on. Until we started having the bug of creating again. But we were like, no, let's create, but we were never going to play live. No, no, not anymore. And then we started playing live again. And then since then we have never stopped. So it was a great experience as well. Cause I mean, uh, Gabs, he, he, he's kind of a music producer. So basically he, we recorded every, everything in his home studio. Yeah.

11:34?And that's, you know, for us, that was like amazing.

11:36Yur MumCause you could just go, you know, most people, they go to a studio from nine to six. And then with him, we could just go. We started at six. Yeah. We would start recording like at midnight and we would record until five in the morning until someone basically passed out. Usually me. Cause I was, I was, uh, the one who get tired before. So I started sleeping. So that's when they were like photobombing my beautiful positions. But Annie can sleep at any situation. I can. I have no problem. She could sleep through a earthquake. I am very blessed.

12:12HostYou are blessed. I'm a complete opposite. It's really easy to wake me up. Me too.

12:19Yur MumBut yeah, so two Brazilians and, and I'm half Austrian. So I have family in Vienna as well. And we, we managed to, as your mom and as a three piece 2018, I think we played actually a gig in Vienna, but I cannot remember the name of the venue. 2017. 2017 and the band, my cousin's band is Tankeris. And so we play with them, but, and that was the only time we, we went there to, to play a gig actually.

12:47?Yeah.

12:48Yur MumAfter that, just visiting family and then playing in London.

12:52HostI was talking to another band that is located also in London and they're fresh. They're just like, they're only three years. And I asked them, what would you ask you, your mom, you know, because you're like, oh, wow, we can ask these questions. All right. So they, so I, I cheated a bit, you know, so I asked them to ask questions for them. It would be useful to know how did you get your first gigs in London?

13:17Yur MumOh, we got our first gig actually supporting ourselves. So we were having a gig with Plastique, our previous, the, the, the, the previous band we had, that was our first gig. Yeah. And then we were already starting with the, your mom project aside. So the first band did not finish. We already started playing around with your mom, but then we were playing around with your mom. I love when it's like, just like that. And then we had like just one new, like one song that we've created. The other ones, they were like covers and we needed a support band for that night. And it was kind of a last minute thing. So we were like, oh, it wouldn't it be funny if we just support ourselves? Like we go on stage, play with this band and then we go after and play with Plastique. Yeah. So that was the first one. Yeah. But to help out your friend, our first experience playing live here was playing at the Dublin Castle.

14:10?That's true.

14:10Yur MumWith Plastique. And one of the struggles that we had in that group for a few years is that here in London is actually quite difficult to find a scene. It's a really, really monster of a city, you know, it's too big and everything is, you know, spread out across the city. It's not like, you know, some people say, oh, just go to Camden and that's where you're going to find the rock scene. No, it's completely. Depending on the day of the week, you won't find the rock scene there, actually. Yeah. And then, but there's a lot of promoters here that is basically pay to play or one of those, like you don't get paid, but you get a slot to play or you have to sell tickets up front. So my advice is like, avoid these people. Yes. Because it's not only, I call these, I call these gigs, the fast food gigs, because it's basically one band plays, their friend, like drive-thru gigs, sorry, drive-thru gigs, like McDonald's, you know? So one band plays, some people walk in, the band finishes, they walk out, then the next band goes on, then their friends come in, watch it, then they leave. And the place is never really, it never really happens. It doesn't have like the right atmosphere for a live show. You don't get to know anyone. Lots of these bands, I don't know if they're insecure or unexperienced, they don't really talk to anyone. It's awful. So for us, I don't know when it was the first time that we actually felt like this is the right place to be, you know? No, wait, you're talking Plastique or your mom? No, I'm talking about Plastique. Plastique. For many, for a few years, we struggled playing. Fair enough. We were trying to find a scene, but we just couldn't. I think we never found it with Plastique. We had like a great gig, which was kind of our last ones, last two gigs, they were great. But again, then we started to book gigs ourselves, because we were like, okay, so if we don't have help from others, we were just going to approach the venues and say, okay, so we are organizing this night, we get the bands we want to play with, and that was it. But we Plastique, unfortunately, we never found a scene that we would belong and feel happy in, or we could observe from other bands and other bands observe from us, you know, that kind of exchange that it's so cool. But with your mom, luckily, after this first gig, I don't remember which one was the second that we met. We met Andy Cavendish from Alternative Gathering. He doesn't like that people mention. Oh, yeah, so nobody contact Andy Cavendish, all right? He hates being contacted. From an Alternative Gathering, don't contact him.

16:55Yur MumBut he's a fucking cool dude, and we always call him our godfather, because we had a gig booked with him. We didn't know him at all. But the main band, which is a big deal here in London in the scene, but no names to mention, they pull out, kind of last minute, and then we just receive a call from Andy, just like, oh, so this gig cannot happen because there are no drums, and they were going to supply the drums, so I don't know what you guys want to do. And we so wanted to play, we were starting, that we just said to Andy, okay, Andy, if we find a way to get drums, can we still have this night with you? It was like, yeah, up to you, but I don't know how to help. And then we started, the three of us, trying to find a place to rent a drum, because we didn't have ourselves as well. Managed to rent, spoke with the other band. So like, okay, guys, if everybody chips in this amount, let's have the drums, let's have the night. And that was when Andy said, like, okay, this is a fucking band that really wants to play, and this is a band I would like to work with more. So since then, he was always taking us to different venues, inviting us to play, and then we started to get to know bands like Healthy Junkies and Polypick Pockets, and in our bands that we play until now, we actually have a tour with them. Minotauri. And then we found a scene that we did not find with the other band, but we found a scene where bands actually help each other, and it's not that stupidity of competition, you know? Because I think everybody's already fucking, like, are we going to fight for crumbles? No, let's just kind of share it and see if we can have a fucking whole bread together, and everybody gains from that, you know? Our fans will enjoy Healthy Junkies fans, which will enjoy this fan here, and then you start a community, and then you start the word-to-mouth, even though we have all the social media that we have to have and deal with nowadays. But I still believe the word-to-mouth is the best propaganda. I think that's the one that sticks with you, you know? Like, if someone tells me, go and see White Miles, I might go, I might have gone, but because I've seen them first, and then I was like, ah, I was the one, me and Fabio, then talking about them. And then other people started checking them out, and so on. So I think that the power of the word is much stronger, and then I completely changed the subject. You did, you did. But I think it makes sense, because it's the crescendo, you know? Yeah, I just wanted to kind of simplify, because I was thinking about the best way to find a decent show in London, is the best way is to talk to other bands. No, talk to other bands. So talk to other bands online, or if you go to their gigs, even better. Go to lots of gigs. If you see, like, bands, I think our sound actually would go well with them. Talk to them. Most bands, they're going to be quite appreciative. Yeah. And who knows, they might help you out. Like, we managed to play in the U.S. because one band helped us, and we ended up going there, playing lots of shows. I think that's the most honest way to kind of find decent gigs. You can also try to book gigs yourself, but then it's a whole level of complexity. So yeah, talking to bands, networking, that's the best thing you can do. Yeah, don't fall for these promoters. There's a lot of idiots out there, you know, and a lot of people, they're just trying to exploit bands, because they don't make enough money from their gigs, so they want to make money from bands. So cut the middleman, talk to the artists, get your gigs together. As a matter of fact, we did play a gig with White Miles.

20:31?Yeah.

20:31Yur MumWe booked a gig here for Plastique, not for your mom. No, your mom? No, no, before. Ah, wait a second. Okay, okay. Sorry, my memory goes in timeline. We met White Miles. We contacted them to support us here in London. No, we were the support band. As Plastique. We did the show, and then lots of people came to the show, and we got to know lots of other bands. We made, like, networking was brilliant. That night was so great. Yeah. And then after that, we already had your mom at that time, but it was still kind of at the very beginning. So I think, I don't remember if it was the same year, but at the end of the year, we ended up playing a show in London with White Miles, and eventually they came to our place. We had a few beers and all. But yeah, that's basically how it started.

21:22HostAnd did you know White Miles, like, personally, or it was just a complete cold message?

21:27Yur MumComplete cold message. Like, we spoke very quickly with them after that first gig we watched them.

21:33?Yeah.

21:33Yur MumI tried to speak a little bit with my terrible German, because I used to speak, but then since here, and my grandmother, sadly, is not alive anymore to force me, because it was amazing. I'm not saying this as a bad thing, but she would kind of bring this back, so I could keep training. But I was trying to speak with her a little bit of German, and she was such a freaking humble person. She is, actually, not was. But it's so easy to talk to, and I could see her. I was like, okay, that's actually not the moment for us to talk, because you could see, like, the artist, like, being very kind to you, but having to sell the merch to the next. So I literally would just very quickly just drop it, like, if we were to play a gig together, a book a gig, would you be interested? And then she just said, yeah, contact us here. I don't recall if she gave a card, or if she just said, just find us on Facebook, and we can start talking. No, we actually ended up speaking to their manager. Yeah, that's true. But yeah, it was literally out of the blue. We were like, we have these dates, or would you be interested, or you give me your terms when you're available, we make it happen.

22:39HostYeah, because that band that I was talking about, they also asked me before, like, the same situation. Like, they wanted to open for a band, and they were asking how should they approach. And I said, like, just talk to the people, you know, like, be honest, you know, and they will dig it.

22:54Yur MumThat's the thing. Every band has started at some point, or was at that position at some point. So I think if the band already treats you like an asshole for just trying to communicate, then it's already a sign that it's not worth to open for them. You know what I mean?

23:12HostAnd actually, this band, they also mentioned London being a big city, because they found a new drummer, but he lives in Dublin. It was easier for them to find a person in Dublin than to find a member somewhere in London.

23:27?Yeah.

23:28Yur MumYeah, that's one of the reasons we wanted to stick as a two-piece band, because we realized it would be very difficult to work with a third person that lives far from us. I'm actually, I'm very, I'm very hands-on in that sense, Art. When we decided to start Your Mom, my request was, I want to play the drums, because I've been playing bands since I was 14, and finding drummers was always the worst experience in the world. And trying to keep them in the band was even harder. So the drummers, they were like drama queens, literally. Like, they would come play a gig, and then you had to beg them, oh, no. They wanted to leave the band already. So I said, no, I'm going to play the drums. So if I want to play the show... I'm reliable. I'm playing.

24:15Yur MumAnd I always want to play the show. Yeah, that's true.

24:18HostThat's a good approach. And you mentioned that you went on tour, right, with the band. You went recently, last year, I think, you went on a tour in Northern America, right?

24:27Yur MumYes. Yes, yes, yes. No, not last year. Yeah, with... 2019. 2019, we went to U.S. You're talking about U.S.? Yeah.

24:35?U.S., yeah.

24:36Yur MumYeah. So we did West Coast, 2019, with this band, Taraboo.

24:41HostYeah, just tell me about this tour.

24:44Yur MumOh, fucking hell, it was so cool. Okay, I'll try to be as quick as I can. The first album, Road Rage, we had a label. And then these guys, they said, we have a guy that is doing like South by Southwest in Austin. But it's like a fringe, a fringe thing. And he said, can you get us a gig? He said, yeah, I can. And then the guy from the label, he got us the gig in Austin. And then he said, oh, I recommend you guys find more gigs. We're like, no, no kidding. No shit. Yeah. Can you help us find more gigs? No. And then by accident, we started. Well, actually, it was after she found this band on Instagram, of all places. See? Instagram, connecting people. And then we started talking to them. And we actually managed to get them a slot at the Fringe Festival during South by Southwest. And they said, cool. And we're going to get you guys 12 other shows in the U.S. So we played like lots of places in California. We played Vegas. Where else?

25:50Yur MumEl Paso. Yeah. There are lots of cities that we played. And Austin, obviously. Which was actually the worst kick. It was. It was the worst fucking kick. It was so sad.

26:02HostWhy was it the worst?

26:03Yur MumWell, first of all, you're competing with the big South, whatever, Southwest. But we thought, you know what? There are other. There is another side. And probably people want to see as well. That kind of fringe side of the festival. So we went on that with that mentality. And but the venue we were playing. It was like a warehouse. It was a warehouse. And it's still fine. Because it's 20 minutes away from the city. It's fine. Stage, everything was cool. But everything was under construction on the road. So you could not even see the venue. If you wanted to get to the venue, you have to do such a fucking zigzag. That we were playing there. I almost gave up going there. Because we're like, OK, if we are getting pissed off, getting to our own gig, imagine the other guys are going to be like, no, fuck this. I'm going to go to the other side.

26:50?So, yeah. So we ended up playing for very little people, little number of people. But it was cool. It was too cool. Because we were with the mentality. And that's the thing. When we met Tara Hu, which is the band from Cali at the time they were living there. We had a call online to see if we were going to get along. And then when we had the first gig, all settled. Like, OK, now we're going. Like, fucking hell. And we're going to meet face to face.

27:16Yur MumAnd so they have their worries, which were the same as ours. It's almost like a blind date. So it's like, are we going to work? Because we're going to make all these gigs together. Do we have the same touring mentality? Not, are we going to fuck it up? Are they going to fuck it up? Whatever. And we were so similar. It was so scary. Like, after the first gig, we were already like hugging. And we kept looking at each other like, this is fucking weird. It's like, we know each other for such a long time. And we were helping each other. We worked exactly the same. It was literally a pleasure doing this tour. So I think we didn't care that much that the gig was kind of a failure. Because we're like, you know what? We're in Austin. Let's grab a beer. It's a rehearsal. It's an open rehearsal. Yeah, absolutely. And last year, you're asking, we went to the States to actually hang out with Tara and Coco. And we did a... And they have become a two-piece as well. Yeah, they're two-piece now as well. So look at the destiny. It's mental. So they had this idea of us doing a song together. So we did record everything, blah, blah. And then she said, why don't you come here, end of the year, and then we can do a music video for it. And that's one of the reasons we went there. Yeah, but then she moved from Cali to Oklahoma. So we went there to the farm, farm life. It was really fucking cool. It was really, really cool. And then we did the video to Push Me, which is the single. Which is out now. It's out now. Check it out. Push Me by Tara Who featuring your mom.

28:51?Spotify. Apple Music.

28:55Yur MumIt was really, really good fun. Really good fun. And we are planning to do more for end of this year or next year. So it's a friendship to continue and will forever. But yeah, and then again, kind of going back to the guys asking you how to get it. I think it's just, yeah, just not being scared and just asking. Because you have the no already. So just ask. Just ask.

29:21HostAnd what have you learned from that tour? Maybe like, or what didn't you expect? Or maybe what you wish you did something different on the tour?

29:31Yur MumWe learned that the US is way too big. Yeah. So any show you have, there's a lot of driving involved. So luckily we had a friend that came with us and he was helping, sharing the burden of driving. But even if you're not driving, it's really exhausting to spend like, for example, we drove from Austin to El Paso. And it was at least eight, eight or ten hours. Yeah. Ten hours and something. And it was three seasons because we got snow. We've got a desert. Desert storm, I sent storm. And then it was summer all of a sudden. And then, oh, not complaining to be honest, because for me that was still fucking cool. But yeah, I mean, I don't recommend to anyone playing a gig. And then the next day driving eight hours and then going, setting up gear all over again, playing another show. That's really, it destroys you. I think, yeah, we've learned that we have kind of a limit on driving. If we want to last, if we want to have kind of the same energy on stage, we kind of, and we apply this, what we've learned here. So if we have a gig here that is going to take us any gig over three hours drive, we stay in the city.

30:50?We don't drive back. So because that kind of, it's safer. It's cheaper because gas is ridiculous now as well. That's one thing. I found out that my screaming voice does not last three screaming gigs, beers, getting pissed in a row. I need to balance. I had to balance that out, which was fine.

31:11Yur MumBut lessons learned. I remember on the fourth gig, I was so pissed off because I could not scream. And I was just like, what the fuck? And then, but I found out that whiskey and ginger ale did a great job to kind of cheat it a little bit. But anyway, so we have this tour now coming up in March and we have five days in a row. So I'm already like, ah, cannot drink that much. So I will have to choose my battles where I'm going to do my drinking. But it's still all good. But it was more positive than negative, I guess. Yeah, when you do a big tour like this, the first two, three nights is like party. You're just a teenager again. And then after that, you just realize I'm over it. You know, I still want to play the show, but I don't care about drinking. I just want to feel healthy and do it. I would say I don't care about getting drunk. Like you don't need to get pissed head like every night. I totally agree with that. But a beer here and there, I think it's just, it just gives them. Then you appreciate, I think you choose, you choose how much you drink and you enjoy that drink. And you're just not like binging.

32:17HostWhat do you usually drink on the tour with alcohol?

32:20Yur MumI'm a beer drinker, beer and tequila. So if I do shots, it's tequila. If I don't want to drink too much, but I just want to keep sipping something, then it's tequila. And this I learned with Tara, actually, because I always did tequila as a shot. And when we have done this gig, I think it was Hollywood. It was also like another really great night. But she was sipping like tequila and lime and a little bit of ice. So like you would drink, let's say, whiskey maybe on ice, but then adding the lime. And I was just like, hmm, that's interesting. And so another thing I've learned that I added to my menu. But no, we are beer drinkers. Fabio likes his bourbon, to be honest. Yeah, but when we're playing, I usually just take two beers. Whatever they give for free.

33:08HostYeah, I asked because I had an interview. I interviewed the doom metal band Broom. And they mentioned, yeah, we drink margaritas. I was like, oh, all right. I think I should be asking questions about the alcohol. You know, you never know what you're going to get.

33:26Yur MumThat's good. Yeah. I mean, there's some funny stories. Always there's some funny stories.

33:30?Yeah.

33:31Yur MumBecause we, in this band, like we should be already veterans, but we're not. But when we started with this band, I remember we got invited to play this festival in Nottingham. And then like being us, it's like we're going to play on the Saturday or Sunday, but we went on the Friday. So we partied for two days. And then we were playing the show on Sunday at two in the afternoon or something. And I had one of the worst hangovers you can imagine. One of our friends, he got lost in the city. Another guy passed out in the middle of the street. It was that kind of thing, you know. I didn't pass out, but I had this horrible two-day hangover. Yeah. The thing is, on stage, we were just like, you know, when you're sweating and it's alcohol. So he was just like so dehydrated. But it was a great gig again. Yeah. I remember one funny thing after we played the gig, because we usually play with the hat. Then we went outside, I talked to some friends. I took the hat off for a second. And the guy said, dude, there's like vapor coming out of your head. You could see like smoke coming out of my head. That's how bad it was for me.

34:46HostYou mentioned that you, so regarding the tours, do you do the booking yourself?

34:51Yur MumI would say...

34:52?Yes and no. Yeah, 50-50. 50-50. We have, so for Tropical Fuzz, we've signed with the label Chapter 22.

35:00Yur MumAnd they are absolutely brilliant and gents and straightforward, no bullshit type of contract and deal. And they also have their own promotion agency. Yes. So most of the gigs we've got last year were through them, like the big ones. And then we have two promoters we work constantly here in London with. And everything else, then we try to find ourselves. So we still always, we are still always like checking bands out. And then saying, wow, can we support you guys? Or if we, if you organize this, would you like to come in? And so on. Because I think even though you have the security of, of certain agencies, if you just relax and just do that, then you're going to keep doing like that same circuit. So if you want to change a little bit, and there's so many places in London, we found out that we have never even seen or watched bands. And then we're like, oh, that's, that's a scene going on here, East London. Let's check this. Or there is a scene going on in South London. Fuck, where is this place? Let's check it out, you know? Here in London, we play probably around 30 different venues. Yeah. And we realize there's still another hundred venues that we don't know.

36:16HostYeah. When they saw your tour list of the upcoming tour and the previous, all the, all the shows, man, it's like, and most of them are in England and a lot of in London. I was like, yeah, what the hell, you know? Because you're the first band that I interviewed who was from London. And if you talk to other bands from different cities, they're like, we don't have so many venues here. No, there's no tours, you know, like, but with you, it's just like, whoa, completely opposite.

36:42Yur MumAnd we love driving. We love traveling. So for us, it was almost like we get to know with the band, we've got to know so much of the UK that we probably wouldn't even got a chance if we were not in a band. Because there are places which even the locals, they ask us, like, what the fuck are you guys doing here? Oh, man, we've been everywhere. We've been everywhere. Yeah. I tell my English friends, like, I know your country better than you, mate. Because I do. Like, we've been all over the place.

37:07HostAnd what about Europe? Tours in Europe? When was the last time?

37:10Yur MumSo the last time was this, this that we played Vienna. No, no, we played France and Belgium. We did France and Belgium.

37:19?With Tara.

37:20Yur MumWe did Belgium with Tara was the last one. And France. And then France. And then we did before that, south of France, like, three nights. Yeah. Remember? Toulouse and so on. Lyon. Yeah, very alternative places, very cool places, very cool bands.

37:35?Yeah.

37:36Yur MumFrench people are amazing. We love French people. I would say Europe has a thing. That's when you, like, when you realize, with all the respect to the promoters here, because I know they do what they can around here. But outside, as soon as you leave UK, it's just a different approach. They look after you. It's just a different approach, you know? It's like, okay, we are on the same boat. Venues, promoters, and musicians, kind of. So in France, like, we were fucking ally. They would cook, you know, like, fresh fucking food. And everything is chilled. I remember I got actually emotional. Like, I didn't cry.

38:13?But I got emotional in the sense of we arrived in this place to play. And we had that London mentality, which is like, oh, you arrive and soundcheck. And da-da-da-da-da-da-da, six o'clock, open, pop, pop, pop, play. We arrived there. And they were like, oh, hi, how are you? Ta-ta-ta. So here is some wine. And you can put your stuff here. And this is like, after two hours, nothing happening. No soundcheck. And I was just like, oh, a guy's like, so, no, no, you guys chill. We're going to start soon. First, we're going to have dinner. And I was like, what? So they set up the table. Again, more wine. All the bands together in this big table, having wine. And I was just like, oh. Oh, this is, it was so nice and chill. And I was so not used to that.

38:57Yur MumThat I remember talking to Arcos and Fabio was just like, OK, if we don't even play a gig tonight, I'm already happy. It's just like I'm learning to chill. It was just like that. Oh, in Vienna as well. Yeah, like this. Vienna. Oh, my God. It was amazing. I remember the time. I was like, wow. We were in the green room. They had a fridge. With amazing beer. Three types of beer and soda and water. And food and snacks and everything. This was a hangover gig as well. Remember? It was a massive. Because we went out. I went out with some of my cousins the night before.

39:34Yur MumAnd it was such a bad idea. And you got drunk. Yeah, it was such a bad idea. Massive hangover. Basically. Good beer. So how can you say no?

39:42?Yeah.

39:42Yur MumAnd it was a summer day. And it was so hot. And the venue did not turn the ACs on. Because it was like, it's not going to be a big night. It's not going to be too busy. So no need. This was the first time that I almost passed out on stage. Because I went for a jump. And then it's just like, kind of, ploof, blackout. I just looked at our guitarist at the time. It was like, you're okay? I was just like, I need water. And then I finished the song. Had some water. I remember we finished the gig. Everybody was super excited. And I just remember, I need some air. Because I will throw up. And then my cousin, bless her, comes with me with a shot of vodka. And I was like, super, that was super, guy. And I was just like, oh, no. I had the shot. Because I thought, that's rude not to have it. But I had the shot. I looked at her. I looked at Fabio. Like, I'm going to the toilet. So I disappear, you know. Then I went back. And everything went to normal. It was all good. But it was a great night. But yeah, I think we played that. So it was Vienna. Then on the Vienna kind of circuit, we did Vienna, Prague. And Hungary.

40:48?And Hungary. Yeah.

40:49Yur MumAnd then since that, we had a few gigs booked in Germany for next year. They were supposed to play last year. Last year in Germany. And we were working to book something in Austria as well. And then Belgium again. But then COVID. So it was kind of that up and down. Now you can go. Now you cannot go. Blah, blah, blah. Which is understandable. But it was just the uncertainty, you know. So we just spoke to the venues. Like, okay, let's try it again another time. So you don't lose money in the last minute. We don't lose fares. Because you have to book the plane and everything before. But let's see. Like, if all goes right. We've decided not to try this year. Unless an invite comes. So if anyone in Austria wants to book us. We are that crazy of a band that we would go for one gig only. So if there is an opportunity for us to go. Oh, we make a holiday out of it. We don't give a shit. We love to play. We love to get to know new venues. We love to share the stage. So we would do that. But in terms of planning a tour. We're planning for next year. But may that not stop you from inviting us.

41:52HostAll right. Highly possible that after this. When it comes out. Or maybe just before that. I will get in touch with some promoters. It's highly possible.

42:02?Thank you, Shirley.

42:03HostYeah. You know, I read somewhere in the interview. That you don't consider yourself musicians.

42:08Yur MumYeah. I don't. I don't know about you. But I don't. I consider myself a performer. But not a musician. Like... To be honest. I think lately. I can't. Because I think most people. Especially if you work with anything creative. You have this imposter. Imposter syndrome. And for me, for many years, it's been the same. Like, you never really take yourself seriously enough. And I realized, like, God damn. Like, I've been doing this for so many years. Yeah, for sure. I'm not a...

42:41?I'm not like a orchestra musician. But I know my way around a few instruments. And I know what I'm doing. You know? So, I'm pretty sure I'm, you know, at a decent level.

42:54Yur MumIf you put me against, you know, probably most pop stars out there. I'm pretty sure I know more about writing music and playing than they do. I know how to program music as well and shit. All right, Fabio. You are a musician. I'm definitely not a producer. Yeah. I don't... I think... I agree with what Fabio said. It's kind of being comfortable with that, with that label, maybe. But I'm pretty comfortable being labeled as a performer and an artist. But musician, for me, is such a strong word that, personally, I don't wear that T-shirt. I don't feel comfortable calling myself that. Yeah, once again, because we have a lot of respect for musicians that dedicate their entire lives to studying... That's the thing. ...and improving and, you know, playing all sorts of music genres. I can definitely... I can tell you, like, I'm a rock musician. I probably cannot play many different styles, but I can play rock. That's what I know about my specialty.

43:58HostCool. It's like, with me, I have... I can't call myself an artist, even though, for example, I make animation and motion design and music videos like that. I can't call myself an artist. I don't feel that artists got so devalued, in a way, because everybody calls artists or... Or, in another way, for me, artists are somebody who's, like, hanging on the wall in a museum, and only time will tell if you're an artist or not. But I have this imposter syndrome all the time. I just accepted it, and that's fine. What are your plans? So, you said that you have an upcoming tour in the United Kingdom. What else? What else is planned?

44:37Yur MumSo, we have quite a few gigs booked for the UK. So, the Lips Can Kill, which is with these three bands we played last year, and we're playing again this year. She's really not counting COVID, guys. What? It wasn't last year. Oh, yes! I keep ignoring. I ignore. Last year did not happen. And the one before. Okay. I always have you to count on putting me in the right place. So, two years ago... Lips Can Kill. We had the Lips Can Kill. So, we have the Lips Can Kill Tour this year. If all goes well, we're doing all the dates.

45:14Yur MumThen, we have Rebellion Festival, which we're really looking forward to this year because since we started the band, of course, we wanted to jump in this festival. And we managed, before COVID, to get invited, and then it got canceled. And we were just like, fuck this! But we got invited to play it again this year. So, that's happening in August, and we're really looking forward. And we're building up a tour in Ireland for August as well. And maybe U.S. September. But it will depend on gigs that we can get. Still a bit maybe because we want to try to, how to say, adventure ourselves on the East Coast. We want to try the East Coast. That's when we are starting to kind of now asking venues and checking out. So, us and Tara Who, so we are the two bands doing that, and see what happens. So, that's kind of a, how to say, an unknown area. Yeah, the thing about us, and the scene that we're part of, is that most of the bands, it's not like mainstream music, you know, that you have that artist who can only play that tour, those gigs. That's it. You just go there until like two months, and that's it. You don't do anything else the rest of the year. No, we're always playing. So, throughout the year, lots of other invites are going to show up, or we're probably going to book a few more gigs. It's just more fluid, more organic, you know. We don't have to announce like, hey, this year we're going to play that tour, and that's it. No, we're going to do lots of gigs. It keeps changing, and we like that. I think because we're not in our 20s, we don't want to waste time as well. So, we just want to do it, and leave the moment. Yeah, we don't have time for bullshit, and drama, and, you know, we just want to keep going. Which is a lot in the scene. It's so funny. I thought this was kind of, those drama days were passed, but like, it's almost you're in kindergarten again, even in the rock and roll scene. So, you're always like, oh, seriously? So, we don't have time for that. It's like, you guys fight over here, we're going to play a gig over there. If you fancy, join us. It's funnier there.

47:17HostYou know, you mentioned young bands. Another question from the band from London, that's in London for the last three years. It's like, where do you get a good rehearsal space in London? Because they only found only expensive ones.

47:28Yur MumOh, that's tough. We had a really good one. We had two good ones that they closed down. Yeah, the problem is the places are closing down constantly. So, we had a brilliant one, cheap, but then it's gone. The best one we found is Pirate Studios. That's the one we've been using, because you can find all over the UK. So, if you're in route and you need to rehearse, you can find... Yeah, we shouldn't be doing advertising for them. But the good thing is, they have several places in London. So, you can just go book online. There's not a lot of hassle. They have lots of places in London. Yeah, and they're the ones we're using. And to be honest, that's the only one we have near where we live now. Yeah. All the places are gone.

48:14HostYou know, I saw that on YouTube. By the way, you have a really cool YouTube channel. You have music videos. And you have the series that you have, Lost in Translation. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Can you please a little bit talk about that? And why have you started that? And what's it about? Because it's actually like an opener. Like, it's like really cool behind the scenes series.

48:36Yur MumSo, yeah. To be honest, we didn't have any intention of doing that. I did... Well, we did a couple of videos before when we released the first single. And then I was applying to this different playlists and things. And we started getting some feedback from bloggers and from media people from these playlisters. And I thought it was really funny because, like, most of these people, they dedicate probably 10 seconds to listen to a track and decide if they want that track or not. And they don't do any background research. So, basically, they start assuming who you are just by listening to 10 seconds of a song. And then, like, we had so many funny comments that we just did a whole video reading the negative comments about the music. And then a lot of people said, oh, that was really funny. You guys should try and do more videos like that. And then some friends said, like, why don't you guys do something talking about your songs, how you come up with the songs and stuff. And then we thought, like, well, we can try, you know. We have the time. So, let's do it. Yeah, I mean, it was hard work. But we managed to do, like, 10 episodes almost weekly. Yeah, we had a thing that when we started, we were like, now we will have to go until the end. Because then we've decided it's going to be about the album. So, 10 songs, 10 episodes. Cannot be less than this. Now, if it's more than this, only time will tell. But, yeah, when we started, we were like, now we're fucked. We need to do this. Yeah, now we're taking a break because we finished the album, talking about the new album. And we might return, but we need to find different things to talk about. You know, we have a few ideas. So, who knows? Maybe soon we might have some new episodes.

50:30?Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:31HostAnd you also wait probably for the feedback from the people. Because you constantly interact with the people. Yeah. And, fuck, I forgot what I wanted to ask.

50:41HostAh, yeah. I wanted to ask that the Tropical Fuzz. I really love that album. Everything. Actually, everything is polished. Actually, it's not a question. It's a comment. Everything is super cool. Like, who's doing the design? Fabio. Yeah, it's really cool. And the social media also you're doing? Or, like, you're, like, splitting stuff?

51:01Yur MumWe kind of split. Like, the boring stuff is usually me. If there is something with a little bit more thoughtful or more colors, it's Fabio. Yeah.

51:38Yur MumYeah. Cool pictures. Still me. But anyway, artworks is usually Fabio. Fabio is the creative behind the whole concept of Tropical Fuzz.

51:48HostWell, whatever you do together, it works, because that's how I discovered you. I mean, all together, just quality stuff.

51:58Yur MumSuper guy. Have you seen this advertising? And, like, I always talk to people about this advertising, and not many people heard of it. Like, but I think it's a German one, I think. But I just absolutely love it. Like, super uki, super sushi. Super mushi, super guy. So, anyway, sorry. Totally. We'll leave this at your discretion. We'll leave this at your discretion, Artie. If you want to edit out.

52:23HostI don't know. I don't know. I will take it. I don't know. Most of the time, I do editing only so that I would sound smarter, so I can edit myself. And because of this, I have to edit the whole episode. That's the only reason. Otherwise, I would just leave it, because it takes a lot of time.

52:39?Yeah.

52:40Yur MumOh, by the way, Art, we love podcasts in general. And we actually, we almost started a podcast, like, 10 years ago. When it wasn't cool. But now it's cool, right? Everybody loves podcasts. Everyone's doing a podcast. So, how do you feel about your podcast?

53:00HostI wanted to do a podcast for three years. And then I was, like, doing research how to do it and what do I need for that to do. And then one day, I just said, fuck it. I have an opportunity. I have a band. So, let's just do a live, Instagram live session. So, it's going to be a proof of concept. So, I had the band Psychic Hit. And then we just recorded live without editing. And I did the questions. I was super nervous, especially with live, you know. But that was enough for me to understand that it should work. And that's why we're here.

53:35?Nice.

53:35Yur MumNice.

53:36HostBut you can still do the podcast, you know, like, your own.

53:40Yur MumYeah, because we were thinking, like, Lost in Translation, if it's just two of us, it might get to a point that is, like, it's a bit tired. You know what I mean? And we think, like, if we did something like a podcast, you can always have a different guest. And then you have something different to talk about.

53:55HostYeah, you should invite people to, like, especially if it's possible, if you're in London in person and you have in camera, then, yeah, definitely. I would recommend. You already look cool on camera. I already have everything ready for that. So, you should try it out. Try it out with friends.

54:12Yur MumIf we do our first podcast, Artur has to be the first guest to join us. Because thanks to him, super psychic hits is going to happen.

54:21HostYeah. Unfortunately, we're almost out of time. There's more questions I would like to ask, but. Oh, no.

54:28?Let's go for it.

54:29HostFor the next time. So, where can people follow your mom?

54:34Yur MumYou can follow us in all the shenanigans places, Spotify, Apples, YouTube, and so on.

54:44Yur MumApples. Apples. Apples. Apple trees. But I would say, like, yeah, YouTube is always a good one. Like, if you could subscribe, because we might be able to monetize it in the future, and it won't cost you as a fan anything. So, if you could subscribe to our YouTube, it would be amazing. And then our newsletter, actually, on www.yurmum.com, we don't send many, like, propagandas and emails, whatever. It's literally once a month with kind of updated dates or any promotion that we might throw it on the month, depending on the mood. So, these two, I would say, are the main ones, but you can find us literally everywhere. You will find us on TikTok, but I can't be bothered updating fucking TikTok. I'm just too old for that shit. So, nope. And no Snapchat. If we could, if we could, we would just, like, leave all social media. Yeah, but we cannot. We would. But, yeah, email. If you don't like any drama, email newsletters. Probably the best way to know what's happening, to know that we're still alive once a month.

55:49?Drama free.

55:50Yur MumYeah. And then, like, social media, if you have time and patience.

55:55HostYeah, everybody should go subscribe to the new sweater, check out YouTube channel. Please. Subscribe to Spotify and buy the tickets for the upcoming tour.

56:04?Yes.

56:05Yur MumYes, please.

56:06?Please.

56:07HostAnd which song are we going to hear at the end of the episode?

56:10Yur MumShall we go for... Do you have a favorite one, Artur, that you would like to hear in the end of this episode?

56:16HostI usually try not to choose. I'd say, like, choose a song that best represents your band as a starter, like Gateway Drug. Gateway Drug.

56:27Yur MumGateway Drug. Banana Genet.

56:30HostMaybe one of the music videos, so it's easier to find on YouTube. Okay.

56:34Yur MumYeah. So, yeah, Banana Republic. So, Banana Republic. Because I think it kind of shows the loudness that a two-piece can get. And... The Brazilian side. The Brazilian-ness-ness and the stoner-ness-ness. It's like... I think Banana Republic approach is kind of lots of... Ticks lots of boxes and introduces, well, the Tropical Fuzz album. So, yeah.

56:58HostAll right. Thank you very much. Annalisa and Fabio, thank you very much for this.

57:01Yur MumThank you. Thank you. Thank you, Artur. See you next time.

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