Curb, Leftovers, Baits, Sodl, The Sziget Truth, The Dad Clash, The Meme Muse, The Intense Empathy

0:01HostWelcome to Interceptor Beyond Podcast. My name is Arthur and this is the Green Room Sessions, where I interview the musicians right there in the venue. And it's episode 3. And this time I was at the Freak Out Festival, which was happening at Wolkersdorf. It's around 20 minutes away from Vienna if you go by train. And the lineup was, as you can see on the cover, curb, leftovers, fades and solo. Really cool musicians and really nice people. As usual, each interview is followed by the song. At the end there's an outro where I tell about my experience going to the fest. The time codes are in description. Don't forget to follow this podcast on any platform that you can follow. And don't forget that on patreon.com slash interceptor beyond you can find all these episodes way ahead before it's made public. All my patrons get to see the behind the scenes stuff and there's also some exclusive content. Anyways, curb, leftovers, fades and solo. Let's go.

0:59LukasHi, I'm Lukas and I play guitar in curb. Hi, I'm Gavshi and I play drums and I sing.

1:04EuniceI'm Eunice and I play bass and I also sing.

1:07LukasI also sing, sorry, I also sing sometimes.

1:10HostActually, it was one of my questions. Everybody sings here, right? Okay, just ask me, I want to ask you this. How do you decide who's going to sing?

1:18LukasUm, sometimes, I think mostly it's who wrote the lyrics, but sometimes we have a, like, we write a part and then we think, uh, maybe it would suit Eunice better, for example. But I think usually it's like who wrote the part, that person's going to sing it.

1:34HostEqual? Or do you have a equal amount of songs that everybody sings?

1:38?I think so.

1:39GavshiYeah, right now it's pretty equal. I mean, it might change, but I think, I mean, Eunice and me sing more than Lukas, but, um, yeah, it's pretty equal right now. It's cool.

1:49HostSo, uh, let's come back to the beginning, to now, I mean. Uh, you played it yesterday. Where did you play?

1:55LukasUh, Lennstern, 1990.

1:56?How was it?

1:57GavshiIt was amazing. It was a really good show, but it was also, like, way too fucking hot. Sweat was dripping down, but, but that's, but, but that's the best shows, right? So, when.

2:07HostAnd now we're, uh, at, uh, Wolkersdorf, uh, Open Air. So, which one would you prefer, Open Air or Clothes Space? Which, which one is your favorite stage?

2:19EuniceI actually talked about, like, today, I prefer indoors. Playing indoors.

2:26HostAnd in darkness.

2:27CurbYeah, like, very sweaty. The energy is kind of better, right? Yeah, yeah.

2:33LukasLike, I think we're more used to it. Like, we usually play, like, small club shows, and I think this is our first, like, proper open air gig. So, I just think it's something to get used to, probably. So, that's also why you probably prefer smaller, more indoor, dark, kind of, yeah.

2:49HostYeah, you're, you're more open for, uh, I mean, darkness hides a lot of things. And, and right here, on stage, on Open Stage, it's quite a big stage. If you compare it to Fenster 99, it's, like, huge. Uh, where was your favorite, first of all, which one, which place is your favorite to perform? I guess, Fenster, or something else? Or, uh, like, yesterday at Fenster was great.

3:14GavshiUm, I mean, what's my favorite place to perform?

3:17?Good question.

3:18GavshiI don't know, do you have any?

3:20LukasI really liked, uh, we, I think we played twice at, uh, AKH. Yeah, and I really liked that, because it was kind of the same vibe as Fenster, like, as a whole. But it was a bit more, like, I don't know, the people that were so, like, I don't know, it was, like, homely for us. They reminded us, they welcomed us. It was very, like, a friendly environment. So, yeah, that was...

3:42EuniceYeah, I think I would say Fenster, though. Maybe I'm a little biased, because of the gig yesterday. Yeah, but I think, yeah, Fenster.

3:51GavshiHmm, I'm not gonna say any preference, I think.

3:54HostIt's all about the people. But, uh, at Fenster, was it the first time you played? No, I don't think so.

4:00EuniceNo, I think it was the third time. No, I thought about it.

4:03CurbI think it was actually the fourth.

4:05GavshiBut, yeah, time flies by, like, details get lost somewhere in the ether.

4:10HostAbsolutely, the one big, huge tour.

4:13CurbWhat happened pre-pandemic? Yeah. Who knows?

4:17HostYou started before the pandemic, right, as a band? Yeah.

4:20LukasLike, in 2018, I think the first official Curb gig was in April of 2018.

4:27HostAll right. And now, come back to, again, to the current time. Yesterday, you had a song released on YouTube, right? What's the name?

4:36GavshiNo, not just on YouTube, on every streaming platform, everywhere, but also with a music video on YouTube. Yeah, it's called Pull Me Closer.

4:43HostYeah, I checked it out. Good song. I had to wait till 4 o'clock in the evening because I don't know who decided to put it at 4 o'clock.

4:51GavshiIt's kind of like a marketing gag, you know? You release the song at midnight, and then you release the music video again, so people, like, click on it again and get excited for it twice.

5:00HostAh, so it was available at midnight on all streaming platforms?

5:05CurbYeah, and the video was released at 4 o'clock.

5:07HostAh, I didn't know that. I had to wait till the music video.

5:10LukasIt was also 4 o'clock because I didn't have it fully finished.

5:15HostAh, that's the real reason. Fuck that marketing shit.

5:20LukasYeah, but, yeah, I thought we also, there was one part of the reason was also because there's, like, you get the song and then after, I don't know, a couple of hours, you get the video, so you, I don't know, you get a second impulse to, like, react to the song or whatever.

5:36HostWhy does it have a VHS aesthetic?

5:40LukasHonestly, we were thinking about it because, like, the first video we did for, like, like, the next couple of songs was really, like, for us, high budget and more of a Will of the Horror Switch You Out. It was, yeah, like, more high effort and we wanted to sort of switch it up between the songs we were going to release because the next one's going to be more high budget again. So we wanted to do a bit more of DIY aesthetic, so we started ourselves. We downloaded some VHS-style app, so it was somewhat interesting visually. So, yeah, it was just to keep that DIY sort of vibe, you know.

6:16GavshiBig shout-out to Fatso for making the video way cooler because he added all the burning houses and cars and stuff. We just shot the video, Lucas edited it, and then Fatso made the magic happen, so thank you.

6:28CurbNo houses were actually burned.

6:31HostIt's even written in the description under the video, no houses were burned. Actually, yeah, Fatso and Lucas, right, who are they?

6:39GavshiUm, they are our producers, like, um, Lucas Wilczko from Elvis Sonics, he's our studio guy and he does the mixing, mastering, all that. And then Fatso is our co-producer, he's actually the drummer in Bates, who are going to play here as well. Um, yeah, I love those guys. They really are amazing.

6:56HostHow did you meet them?

6:57GavshiUm, yeah, so, uh, we actually won a contest, uh, with our band, like, a band contest and we won, like, a song recording and, like, Lucas always does them.

7:07LukasUm, way in the beginning, like, even, I think, before CURB, like, we had a band before CURB with us and a couple more members, and we won with that band, but that band got disbanded before we had that recording session. And in the meantime, CURB got established, or, like, we found the CURB and we went there with CURB, and that's how we met Lucas.

7:29HostWow, so it's, like, almost a coincidence, kind of.

7:32CurbYeah, it's divine intervention.

7:34HostDivine intervention. Yeah, I know Lucas and Fatso, great guys. So, how is the experience working with them? What does this change? What's the difference when you have somebody like a Godfather's and when you don't have

7:47?them? How do they help?

7:49EuniceI think I feel much more comfortable with them. Every time, um, every time when I'm in the studio, I feel like I can, like, really be myself and also, like, try some new things out. Um, like, I've experienced when we went to the studio a couple times with different people, and I always, like, like, held back a little bit, if that makes sense.

8:13?Like shy?

8:14CurbYeah, yeah, shyness.

8:15EuniceAnd, I don't know, I just feel very comfortable working with him, and, yeah, yeah.

8:21LukasAlso, like, um, as Anis said, we've recorded with a couple other people before that, and for me, it was always, like, uh, like a job. Like, you just, you go there, you record your stuff, and you go back home. And with Lucas and Fatso, we go there, we hang out, we, like, do a couple of takes, then we watch some, some, some meme compilation on the biggest screen you've ever seen, and then we go back to recording, so it's more like, uh, yeah, it's, it's much more, as well, again, homely, it's, it's, uh, we not, we don't, we don't go there to just play our stuff and go back home. We go there and, like, enjoy the process of recording it much more than we would with anybody else, I think.

9:01GavshiAnd they, they, they help a lot, actually. Like, like, usually, um, they cut our songs down, because they, like, streamline it, because we, we start with, like, a 30-minute, 30-second song, and then in the end, it's, like, like, three-minute stops, because, um, wait, I said 30 minutes, I mean three minutes, that makes more sense. Uh, and then, then it gets cut down, because it's, like, yeah, that, that's kind of lame if you leave that in, and it's, it's way cooler if you, like, cut straight to the chorus and stuff like that, and it really helps, it, like, really makes the songs more energetic, energetic, and you can hear it on Pull Me Closer, so go listen.

9:33HostYeah, check it out. Actually, you know, like, um, I can give you an example. Uh, a friend of mine gave me a song to listen to, and I said the same thing. Okay, cut out the, the beginning part, so that it's, like, right there in a hook, so that it's, like, more, like, driving, and he's, like, nah, I'm, like, fuck, I need to be a producer, so he listens to me, you know, because, exactly, it's really important, especially in the time of Spotify, when you don't have much time, yeah, to get the attention.

10:01GavshiIt's, like, yeah, that's the thinking behind it, yeah. Um, it's also, like, it's, it's, it's more, it's, it's not, like, they're, they're just our producers, it's, like, the, they're the fourth band member, basically, like, them together, and they, they really add a lot, just, just flavor. I mean, go listen to Speak You Out, and, and, like, the, the bongos before the first verse starts, I, I love that part, like, like, we had nothing to do with it, Fatsy just edited, and we were, like, yeah, that's fucking amazing, so, stuff like that, like, little, little things that make it special.

10:30HostHaving a producer is awesome. Are, are you signed to a label? I don't think so. I'm, I mean, Lucas and Fatsy are, like, your, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

10:39Lukaswe release, uh, everything over Lucas's label, but we're not, like, we're not signed to, to him, or his label, we just release it over him, because, as Gapshi said, we're, like, they are, like, the fourth band member, and so they also have, like, input, yeah, it's just easier, it's just easier.

10:55HostYeah, uh, you're, like, what is it, Badawans?

10:58CurbExactly, yeah.

11:00HostThey're masters. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, okay, I mean, I like Star Wars, but sometimes I get it wrong. You know, you, you write, you say, somewhere online, that your music is melancholy without sounding melancholy.

11:14?I mean, yeah?

11:15GavshiYeah, I think, like, we, we have, like...

11:17LukasI think that the wording is, uh, we're sad without sounding like it.

11:22?Yeah. That's, like, our lyrics are usually more, like, on the melancholy side, but we don't want to make the song, we want to make the song sound more energetic to, sort of, I guess, hide the underlying motion, but the motion's still there, so we want to make you dance to

11:37Lukassad songs, which sounds a bit cringe, honestly, but, yeah, that's sort of the notion behind that sentence.

11:45HostNo, but it's cool, it's cool, but why so sad? Why, uh, what, what is melancholy for you? It's melancholy for me.

11:51LukasI don't know, for me, for example, uh, when I write songs or lyrics or whatever, uh, I get the most, like, um, inspiration to write something out of sad emotion. I don't know what, what's the reason behind that. I don't think I could write a love song. I just, I just couldn't, like, it's usually out of...

12:09GavshiIt's really, it's really hard, like, like, we tried a couple songs where we tried to write lyrics that are, like, more happier sounding, and it was, like, it sounds really fake. Not, not because we're not happy or something, I mean, we're not sad all the time, but I think it's just, it's just a coping mechanism, kind of, you just, you just put, yeah, it's just music therapy.

12:27HostWhen did you start to write? I mean, you're all quite young, you're, like, uh, 20, less?

12:32?23. 23?

12:33CurbYeah, same, 23. 25.

12:35Host25, all right, and you started, uh, playing around 16, right? When did you start?

12:40LukasAs a former band, so, like, as Curb, I think they were 18, I was 20, so, I think.

12:46?All right, all right.

12:47CurbProbably, yeah, yeah, yeah. 19, I was 19, I think, yeah.

12:50HostNot that, but do you think, okay, at the moment, Melancholy and Seth stuff, let's say, let's call it like that, uh, is easy to write, right? Uh, when, uh, do you think there's going to be a moment when you're going to switch to some happy stuff, or so far, how is it going?

13:06LukasPossibly, I mean, as I said, I couldn't, I don't think I could write a love song or happy song right now, but who knows what's going to happen, like, uh, I think also with the new songs who, who we are, uh, which we're writing and recording right now, there's always, like, a different element, and it's always, we're always trying to switch things up. Uh, and we're planning on recording an album next year, and who knows how we write songs next year? Like, maybe there's a happy song in there.

13:32HostSo, uh, so you mentioned, uh, uh, music is based on your, uh, life experience. How much is it connected to the lyrics or the music? Is it like, how much fiction, not real stuff, are in your songs?

13:45GavshiHow much fiction is in the songs? Um, it's like, when, when I write lyrics, um, I think it's very hard to be, like, very specific about the parts of my life. So I, like, make them sound as general as possible. But I think that's also, like, a good thing, because then people can, like, relate to it better, because it's not just, yeah, me, Gab, she sat at home and was thinking this stuff. But it's more like, yeah, that's a feeling that everyone can have. Um, and yeah, I mean, I mean, like, like, speech you out, for example, it's like more about, like, like being stuck in, in, like, useless conversations. And I mean, everybody had that. I mean, I can't think of a, of a, of a perfect example in my life where that happened to me, but I can think of, like, countless examples where that happened to me.

14:27LukasIs the second verse about a specific person? I thought you mentioned that. I don't know, but like.

14:32GavshiYou didn't even write the second verse. Oh, the first, sorry. Isn't the first verse about a specific person? No, I don't think so, man.

14:39LukasBut actually, I have a funny, uh, funny story about that, because, um, when Gab, she said that he wants to make it general, with our song Excellently Accurate, Gab, she wrote the first verse and probably held it kind of general. And, uh, but what he wrote really resonated with me at the time with what I was feeling. And I wrote the second verse, which isn't that much different to the first verse, but still, um, with really, uh, specific for my, uh, current situation at the moment. And that's what we call Excellently Accurate, because what he wrote was Excellently Accurate to my situation at the time. So I think it's a mix of both. Uh, it's about a bit of generalism. Is that a word? Generalization. And also specific to what we experience as people.

15:29HostIs it easy to be so open emotionally to the world, writing the lyrics?

15:36EuniceI think it gets easier the more you do it. Yeah.

15:41?Yeah.

15:41GavshiAs I, as I said, I think, I think it's easier to sing the, to sing the stuff because it's, it's like so held so general. If I was, if I was really saying, like, as I said, like, I'm Gab, she, I'm sad. Like I want to kill myself or whatever. Um, then that would be way harder to sing because like going out and perform and being like honest with yourself and saying like, yeah, these are, these are the feelings that I'm feeling. But since I'm, since I'm, um, like keeping it more general, uh, I think it, I think it's easier for me. Like, like, I know bands, like, especially like in the emo genre and stuff that are like really out there and like, really like in this specific moment, I really thought about ending it all and stuff. And like, I couldn't sing that, but great.

16:21CurbIf people do, but it makes yourself like more vulnerable to people. Yeah. Yeah. That's true.

16:27HostHow close are you to getting emo?

16:29GavshiI think we're pretty emo already. Like, like, as I said, I think we were like a pop punk slash emo band. So we're definitely in that, in that scene, in that genre. Yeah.

16:41HostSo you won't be surprised if you see some, uh, new age emo kids at your show, listening to your music.

16:48CurbI know that there are, so.

16:50HostOh, who are the fans of Curb?

16:54GavshiLike right now, I think it's like mostly our friends and stuff. So, so like there aren't that many people that just know us from shows because I mean, we aren't that big of a band yet, but we're getting there.

17:05LukasUm, I think it keeps growing. Like, uh, especially yesterday, like usually what I was thinking yesterday, because, uh, there's like, I don't know, five, five or six people who keep coming to our shows, like our friends who are always at our shows and they always like sing our songs with us. And yesterday, um, at like our most streamed songs who the people who sing with us usually know, um, it sounded like the whole crowd was singing them because I don't know, it was definitely more than those five people who always come out to our shows. So it definitely keeps growing. Our fan base is growing. And it was really surprising for me yesterday because I was like, how do you know that? How do you know that?

17:46GavshiI think it was the first time that I could actually stop singing and was just, just like let the crowd do it because that was like the first time.

17:53HostOh, this is amazing. This is so awesome.

17:56CurbAmazing feeling. Crazy.

17:57HostI caught you in a, in a good moment. You're in a high, good spirit after yesterday.

18:02GavshiToday, today is going to be the same. It's going to be awesome. The whole, whole, all the vocal stuff is going to sing our songs.

18:09?I'm sure.

18:10HostAll right. And you said, um, so, uh, you don't, you're planning to record and release the album next year. So what are your, or what are your plans actually? More specific.

18:21LukasActually, our plans are pretty, um, okay.

18:24HostLet's, let's do plans for this year. You have music coming out.

18:27LukasThere are probably no specific plans for this year because Gapshi is going away in September.

18:34GavshiIn the middle of September. Yeah. I'm doing like half a year in France.

18:38HostAh, Erasmus stuff. Yeah.

18:40CurbYeah.

18:40HostSo it's a great experience to get your heart broken, get new experience, collect stuff for the new material.

18:47GavshiI'm going with my girlfriend. So I hope I don't get my heart broken because they would, they would kind of suck being like stuck in a 20, uh, 20 sheet. No, like what, what are the 20 square meters? I never said that word before 20 square meters apartment and like, like being broken up. That would suck. But.

19:04HostOkay. I, okay. I didn't mean that, but, but I mean, just getting like a cool experience, especially abroad somewhere. So I guess on the next album, we're going to hear some French tunes. Uh, what are you going to do in the meantime?

19:17LukasActually, like just write songs. Actually, I was listening through demos I recorded over the last year yesterday or like two days ago. And I thought like, um, let's use the time where Gapshi is away to finish them. And that's my goal for the time when Gapshi is away. All right. Keep writing stuff for when he comes back. There's stuff to record. Right.

19:39?Right. What are your puns? Writing. Writing. Yeah.

19:44HostAny, any possibility that you're going separately, uh, not separately, but I mean, going into like electronic sphere or like going completely wild, completely out of the curb sphere. I mean, like writing music just in general.

19:58GavshiI think we're like, we're like definitely not like fixed on a specific genre or something. Like we recorded some songs with some, some rapper friends of ours and stuff. So we're like dabbling into the hip hop genre a bit and stuff like that. Um, and yeah, I think that, uh, we are a band where, where there isn't any point where it's like, okay, we, we're not going to finish writing this song because it doesn't sound like curb or something. So if it, if it's an, if it's an awesome song, we're just going to finish it, even if it's like techno or something.

20:28HostThat's excellent. Uh, do you drink alcohol in general? Yes. Yeah.

20:34CurbWhat's your favorite? You can't just not, it's a podcast, you can't just not, you have to say yes.

20:38HostIt's okay. It's fine. It's fine. On my podcast, you can do whatever you want. Uh, my question for the ending is like, uh, your favorite drink while you're on tour.

20:51GavshiWe haven't been on tour yet. Unfortunately. Come on.

20:54HostWe played around Austria, right?

20:56GavshiYeah. We played shows outside of Vienna, but like never over a few, over like a prolonged period of time.

21:03CurbYeah. One show at like a different city.

21:05HostAll right. And when you're, when are you going on Erasmus?

21:07GavshiUh, like, uh, 16th of September.

21:10HostOh, all right. Not enough time. I was like, okay, in the meantime, come on, go to the, do, do a quick tour.

21:16CurbQuick. But next year, we will go on tour.

21:18GavshiNext year, next year is curb year. Remember.

21:20HostNext year is a curb year. All right. Curb. Thank you very much. Which song, which curb song are we listening in the end?

21:26GavshiOf the episode since we released it yesterday, pull me closer.

24:17?All right. That was curb. And now onto the leftovers interview.

24:20LeftoversHi, I'm Anna. I'm the bass guitarist, bassist, whatever.

24:28HostYou want to redo it?

24:30LeftoversYeah, please.

24:32HostI'm not cutting it out. Not on my podcast. I mean, if you want to, I will cut it out.

24:37LeftoversI'll just redo it. Hi, I'm Anna. I'm the bassist of the leftovers.

24:41HostI like the previous version before.

24:44LeftoversYou can take whatever you want. It's all going in.

24:47LeonHi, I'm Leon. I play the drums.

24:50AlexI am Alex. I play the guitar.

24:53HostAnd you have a fourth member.

24:55LeftoversYes. Leon is our vocalist. He's currently sleeping in the car.

25:01HostWhy in the car? Why not outside? It's so nice outside.

25:04LeftoversI think because it's loud, yeah.

25:08HostOh, that's so cute.

25:09LeftoversThere's so much noise and there's no couch or sofa backstage. Yeah, we only have wooden chairs. They're not exactly very comfortable.

25:16HostBut you're a punk band. I would say you're kind of a punk band.

25:21LeftoversMore of a grunge band, to be honest. Like, we don't really like genres because...

25:28HostNobody likes genres, but I'm asking just to fuck you up.

25:33LeftoversI personally, I don't have a problem with people calling us a punk band, but... Yeah, it's just a bit... I just feel like it's not right because we're playing grunge and alternative rock, not really punk. But you will hear later.

25:50HostYeah, of course. I mean, I checked out all your music. Actually, I haven't checked out your music when you were singing in English.

25:57LeftoversIt's really grungy. That's why we say we are grungy.

26:00HostIt was like a tribute to Nirvana in a way.

26:03LeftoversYeah, it's like the Incesticide of Bleach album. For real.

26:07HostAnd Leo was like a spot on with the sound of the voice of Kurt. Yeah, but I mean...

26:15LeftoversHis voice chords, vocal chords, yeah.

26:18HostYeah, I mean, you already said everywhere in interviews why you switched to German, but you never said it in English. Can you please say it while you switched to German? Because first of all, we need to say that you sing in German.

26:32LeftoversYeah, we sing in German. We started off singing in English because we were really inspired by bands like Nirvana, The Pixies, Martinier, basically all big grunge bands from the 90s. But we decided to switch to German because it's easier to connect to the people of our scene because we live in Austria and we have the most listeners in Austria and Germany. And of course, if you understand the vocals without thinking about it, you can easily connect to the meaning behind the songs.

27:05?I agree.

27:07HostAnd who, you said connection to your audience, who are your audience?

27:13LeftoversI guess everyone who likes to listen to our music. We don't really have like a...

27:19HostWho do you see at your concerts?

27:22LeftoversMostly younger people because we're average 17 years old. How old are you?

27:30?21. 20. 22.

27:34HostYou're so young, so cute.

27:36LeftoversWe're young, so if we write about problems from our personal life, I guess younger people tend to connect more easy to that.

27:49?So...

27:49HostYou know, with your band, I discovered your band on Instagram and I immediately... Because that's how I discover bands. I see if Instagram is good, there's high chance that the music is also good. And I immediately saw that your stuff is like spot on stuff that young people would get. And I showed your music to my friend and he's my age, 35 around.

28:11?And I'm like, check this out, check out these people. And he's like, I don't get it.

28:14LeftoversExactly, you're old. You're old. This is the good shit. Do you get it?

28:20HostFor me, it's a completely different music. It's just not my thing. But I immediately knew that why it's connecting with the young people. It's the style and the music and what the lyrics are about, from what I could find.

28:36LeftoversYeah, but it's not like that we don't plan to write our songs for a younger audience. It's just we are ourselves younger guys and girls.

28:50LeftoversAnd we just do music for ourselves. And if we write about things that we can relate to, it just tends to happen that younger people also relate to the same stuff.

29:07AlexI guess you see that a lot of people feel the same way about a lot of things.

29:11LeftoversAnd you're just not alone.

29:15LeftoversAnd people like loud music these days.

29:18HostFun, loud music. And actually, when I was doing research in you, I mean, I couldn't research all of you. I mean, there's not all the information there. But from what I saw, it's like, you're all nice kids. And then all of a sudden, you became like all this madness type of people. What changed? What happened?

29:42LeftoversWe're still nice kids.

29:47LeftoversI don't know. I guess, fucking puberty, right?

29:51AlexSo, like, first stuff happens.

29:55LeftoversFirst heartbreak, you...

29:57AlexThere are first heartbreaks, the divorced parents.

30:01?I don't know.

30:02LeftoversYou just get into puberty. You do stupid stuff. You get into stupid stuff.

30:07?You become stupid.

30:08LeftoversYou do stupid music. I don't know.

30:11?Yeah.

30:12LeftoversI mean, I guess also the pandemic. We started before it, but then we had a break.

30:17HostWhen did you start? 2018?

30:19LeftoversYeah, yeah. I think so, yeah. And when COVID hit, like, we didn't meet at all. And after, we decided to begin again. And I think it was just a good point where younger people could very much relate to us because they were trapped in their houses all the time.

30:37HostAnd no, I just realized when you said this, it's like, oh, well, first time I'm talking to the young people of generation who are like living in this pandemic, you know, like really, and the pandemic hit when you were like really well, you were sensitive, you know, because for me, when the pandemic hit, it's like nothing changed really. Because I was always working from home and I was more mature. So I was like, okay, fuck the shit. Okay. But for you, it was like a madness in a way, right?

31:02LeftoversI feel like it was really bad for us, but I can't even imagine what it was like for people who were two years younger than us. Yeah, two, three years younger. Who turned 16 while in the middle of the lockdown or something.

31:15HostShit, you can't meet people and stuff, you know, I just realized it only now.

31:19LeftoversI feel like they never had the chance to like go out at night and now our concerts are like the space to do that and just mosh pit the fuck out of the world.

31:28HostYour music and like what you're singing about and the playing, it's like extra, extra window. It's a portal to another world universe and stuff to get away from all the stuff, right?

31:40LeftoversExtra terrestrial hardcore cyberpunk crunch.

31:45HostWe're going to take it. You should put it in the description.

31:49?Extra terrestrial.

31:50HostActually, how much personal, who writes the lyrics? Leo or Eric?

31:55?Depends.

31:56LeftoversDepends, depends. Sometimes me, sometimes him, sometimes Leonid.

31:59HostOkay, cool. How much of personal stuff do you put in the lyrics? Or how much fiction is there in the lyrics?

32:09LeftoversIt varies from song to song. For example, like Kinderzimmer. I wrote the lyrics for that song and it was, I wrote the lyrics right off the, fight with my mom, where she was very angry with me because I decided to stop studying.

32:24LeftoversStopped my university, going to university because I wanted to just work as a barkeeper on the side and, and realize my dream to become a musician. And she was very angry with me because she thought I should have a plan B, I should work on my career, blah, blah, blah, but not a career as a musician, but, or as an artist. Your future. Yeah, I should care more about my future, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Get a 9 to 5 job. Get a 9.

32:52HostSomething safe, stable, you know.

32:54LeftoversYeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And after I had this fight with her, I went to the, to our practice room and Leonid actually made the instrumentals the day before. And I just put them on and screamed to it. And then I was like, okay, this sounds pretty fucking nice. And then I went to Leonid and we finished the song together. So that's how, for example, this song was created, which is very personal.

33:15HostIt feels personal. I think it's one of your most heard songs everywhere. That's why people connect. Yeah. And, uh, so, I have my, my idea went away for a second. I got emotional myself, but actually when you said regarding like, uh, tough times, family divorce and stuff, you know, heartbreak. And each time I heard, like, I remembered mine, you know, like, like, like all my stuff, you know, I was like, oh, oh, it's so painful. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right now is like the best time to write, to be creative for you.

33:51?Yeah.

33:54LeftoversI guess it's not about, you know, it's the right time to do this or the right time to do that. It's just the time where these feelings affect all of us. So it's not like we planned it to, uh, come back after the pandemic with the right topics for the young audiences. It affects all of us. So it's just happens. It resonates with our art. Yeah.

34:18HostThe, the most important thing about your music is that you're really genuine. You sing, play music from your heart. At least it feels.

34:26LeftoversI think that's the most important thing to, to be is authentic. Well, if you, if you write the songs, because like, I write the songs for myself, basically. And if you write the songs for yourself, not for someone else, and it's really generous, really personal.

34:41HostAh, a big thing happened to this year. You got signed to Fat Penguin Records, right? Uh, and Fat Penguin Records is quite a serious deal, considering who is on the roster and who it is in charge. How did you get discovered by those people?

35:01LeftoversLike, we had a concert at Replugged. It was self-organized and, um, well, we kind of knew the people there, but like, they came to a concert. And, um, our manager now, um, he persuaded the other management to ask us to join. One, one partner didn't wanted us to join with us, and the other one wanted us on the roster.

35:29HostWhy not, why, why, why, why would anyone not want you on the, on the, on the record, play?

35:36LeftoversUm, it's a, it's a personal story. Um, one of the, uh, owners, the label.

35:44HostI mean, be careful, I mean, maybe you don't want to say this.

35:46LeftoversYeah, I, I think it's, it's, it's not, it's not, it's not an important. You can't hide from it, so. Yeah, it's one of, one of the, one of the, one of the bosses of Fat Penguin, one of the CEOs. It's not a big company. Yeah, it's just three people. But, like, one partner of it is, uh, my dad. And, uh, we didn't want to work together, because it would be weird. It's, would, always, there will be always people be like, yeah, I just got signed to it because of your dad. And that's why we didn't want it to work together. But the other guy. For that reason, yeah, it would have been signed a lot earlier. Yeah, the, the other guy, uh, um, persuaded my dad, so.

36:26HostAll right, so we have a double conflict.

36:29LeftoversSo, it's not, it's all good, it's not like I'm on a, uh, I'm on, on bad, bad terms with my dad. It's just, we didn't want to, uh, mix family stuff. With life balance, you know. I mean, he knew our music, uh, ever since we started. And it was just always, like, it was never on the table that they would sign us. But then suddenly it was. Yeah. I guess it was just this. We're really happy with that decision that we're with them. Because everybody would be, well. Yeah, they're a great team. They're, like, Viennese labels, uh, because we, we wouldn't want to go to major labels so early. Uh, it's, it's, actually never. It's, like, one of the best Viennese labels you can be in.

37:11HostYeah, I mean, you should check out the roster. I mean, as I said, everybody who's involved in the project of this record, it's, like, serious stuff.

37:19LeftoversI think it's the most professional indie label there is, in Austria, at least. Actually, I, I started knowing them, uh, because they also signed Buntschberg, which was my, uh, my favorite band. When, like, I discovered them when I was 17, I think. And suddenly they, uh, suddenly they asked us to sign. It was just crazy for me.

37:40HostOkay, so you got signed, uh, do, do you, is there a difference between how you were signed before, I mean, not signed and signed, you know, for people who are not signed, for example. Do you understand?

37:52LeftoversYes, yes, a major difference. There was so much weight lifted off of, uh, our shoulders, because we don't have to, uh, well, we've, we've got walkers.

38:02?Yeah.

38:02AlexWe have people who, uh, we have a PR agency. We have people who connect us with Germany, uh, Germany, uh, Germany, uh, because you want to go to Germany at some point, because the, the market in Austria is not that big.

38:18LeftoversEspecially, like, outside of Vienna, it's not, as you can see here, I mean, it's, it's a nice festival, but it's just not really, um, there are not that many people outside.

38:30HostIt's only exist, like, a couple of years, uh, let's say, maybe next year is going to be more, because you're going to be big next year, and then they will see in the back, okay, somebody played here. I mean, nobody remembers what's going to happen here, but in the future, um, yeah, but the major difference.

38:46LeftoversI remember last year, when we, uh, like, met again after the pandemic, and, um, wanted to play again, it was so hard for us to find a venue who would take us. Like, we, we, uh, sent emails to venues at Gürtel, and they didn't even reply, or, yeah, whatever. Monash, a lot of money that we would have to pay for us to be playing there.

39:09HostYeah, they asked for money, and they asked, okay, and, uh, can you buy tickets, and they asked for money and for their cards, like, they, yeah.

39:16LeftoversAnd then, luckily, I think Leonid, uh, found this, uh, band contest, and, uh, we signed up for it, and this was, was kind of our kickoff, I don't know. Um, yeah, uh, if you ever start a band, don't go to a band contest.

39:32HostOh, because the previous band won the contest, and now they have, like, in a good position.

39:37LeftoversElephant planet, or what? Or curb.

39:41?Curb.

39:42HostI mean, they won a competition. I mean, I had an interview just, like, half an hour ago. They won a competition, somebody noticed them, and then it went good from that point. So, why not be at the band contest?

39:56LeftoversUh, you get, like, what do you say, stripped down, I don't know, they, they want you to sell the tickets, they want you to bring the people, they don't put anything into, any PR. You don't get anything from the tickets. You get shit from them. Yeah.

40:10HostOkay, so, it's a classic thing. They invite several bands.

40:13LeftoversThey use young bands and their young audience to make money, and, I mean, yeah, they, with the money, they can pay for big venues, and it's cool to play at these big venues, but. But, but it's usually if, if nobody's there.

40:28HostYeah, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a standard, it's a standard system when they invite, uh, three, four bands, uh, all the bands do all the promotion. They have to organize it themselves. And so the tickets, and usually it's tickets to the family members and friends and family, I mean, some friends don't come. No. And that's, you're left, just a couple of random people, and that's it, and they get all the money.

40:55LeftoversYeah, exactly. They also, like, the contest had a very, very big budget, but it was, like, for example, the jury didn't get paid at all, and the winners were paid 12,000 euros, was very, just very randomly. It doesn't, it doesn't make sense, it's just not balanced, like, they don't even have a fucking Instagram account for the band contest. Okay. But they have enough money, so, I mean, I think every, every band that played in the, in the final round got 500 euros, and the winner got 12,000, and the second place got, like, 6,000 or something. So they have a huge budget, but they can't afford, like, just one PR person to make a fucking Instagram account and do some ads.

41:36AlexBecause you can make a cool event out of it, you can pump up the scene in Vienna, you can support the locals, but you just, they just don't give a fuck about you.

41:45LeftoversThe idea is cool, but the Umsetzung, no, no, like, the way they make it, it's just not, yeah.

41:54HostBut did you know the band who won?

41:56LeftoversYeah, GGM Club. I mean, we met them there, right? Yeah, we met them there.

41:59HostI mean, are they legit? Maybe they were on, on it, you know, maybe they didn't get the money, but, uh, I don't fucking know.

42:05LeftoversBecause usually in such cases, it's like the first two bands are in the, the, the, the Shuri voting was weird, I think, because like the, the, the bands that I think that they were cool and good were placed like on the lowers. Yeah.

42:21HostYeah. It's, it's, it's, the whole thing is fucked up, but this is one of the systems where, where it's not. But yeah, I understand from that point of view of why you shouldn't do this.

42:30LeftoversI don't know if, if they, the winner got the money. All we know is that we didn't get any money and they promised us 500 euros because we got to the final round. I think the 500 euros was more like sponsoring. Yeah, it was, but I don't, it's not even their money. No, it's not their money, but we still didn't get it. Anyway.

42:50HostYeah. But it's, it's, it's, especially in Vienna, it's still a lot of shit going on of, you have to pay for the playing. I mean, there's a lot of stuff. Actually, regarding the label, are they preparing you for the, for the future? Like, uh, what to expect from the music industry?

43:08LeftoversYeah, yeah, yeah, we're in contact a lot. We talk a lot with them about it and what's the plan for the future, but like, it's, it's very unpredictable.

43:18?Yeah.

43:18LeftoversSo they can really give us like a way to go or we just have to find our own way, I guess. But they set things in motion for us to, um, to, uh, yeah, have a chance to grow.

43:32HostWhat's the, what's the plan? Where do you want to grow?

43:34LeftoversI think, yeah, honestly, I think we just want to be able to pay for rent and food and keep making the stuff that makes us happy, playing music and hopefully making other people happy and having people that enjoy our music and can relate to it, connect to it.

43:53HostAll right. And what's the plan for this year?

43:55LeftoversUm, our first tour in, in the fall, we go to Germany for the first time, which is like, kind of, I'm really excited. Yeah.

44:05HostHave you been on a tour already? No, in Austria? No, we are.

44:09LeftoversWe played some concerts in upper Austria now here. Not like a tour is always just for one day there. And then we go back to Vienna and then one night there and go back to Vienna. And now it's for real, like being away for two weeks, three weeks, something like that. And also, of course, our first album comes out this year in October.

44:30HostIn October. And you also have a music video that's coming out soon.

44:33LeftoversYeah, the first single of our first album, actually, it's not the first single, but it's like, it's the fifth single because the other songs that we released this year will also be on the album. But the first single to start the promotion for the album comes out in a week. It's called Angst and there will be a music video also on 2nd of September.

44:59Host2nd of September.

45:00?Awesome.

45:01HostDo you have a favorite alcohol drink before the gigs? For the gigs?

45:06LeftoversI guess beer normally. Yeah. Because like usually we, like when we, when we started playing, when we were like 17, 18, we used to get like shit face drunk before the gigs. Uh, we were fucked up on stage playing all the wrong tunes and that's acting like rock stars in front of like 20 people. It's not that good because like usually nowadays we just drink like a few beers before a show just to lighten the mood. And then after the show, we usually get shit face. We go stupid. Vodka after the show. Yeah, vodka.

45:36HostBecause, because I like to ask the question of what do people, musicians drink on tour, but you haven't been on tour. So I'm asking about the gig. Like why I'm asking this because once I interviewed a band and they said, we like to drink margaritas and there are two metal bands and they like play like serious sad music. And I'm like, no, we're really funny. We like to drink margaritas and stuff. I was like, okay, cool.

45:58LeftoversAre they mixing them themselves or like, where do they get from?

46:02HostNo, buying in the bars and stuff or on the tour. It just goes smooth, I guess. Well, anyways,

46:08LeftoversI'm waiting now a backstage writer for margaritas. Try it out. Try it out.

46:14HostI heard it's cool. Well, anyways, guys, thank you very much. What song are we listening at the end?

46:19LeftoversOur latest release, Käfer. It's about Franz Kafka, Die Verwandlung. I don't know what it is. Metamorphosis. Metamorphosis of Franz Kafka, yeah. It's just a funny little song we did. Die schwere Verwundung Gregors, an der er über einen Monat litt.

46:39?Der Apfel blieb da, in die man zu entfernen wagte, als sichtbares Andenken im Fleischesitzen. Schien selbst den Vater daran erinnert zu haben, dass Gregor, trotz seiner gegenwärtigen, traurigen und ekelhaft, dass man nicht wie einen Feind behandelt und so duldet. Mir geht's so schlecht, ich kann nicht sprechen, ich finde es seltsend, ich bin so hässlich und so zerbrechlich. Ich wache auf, ich will ein Gericht, mir geht's so schlecht, sie heißen mich. Ich kann nicht sprechen, die Brüder brechen, ich finde es seltsend, ich wache auf, ich ziefe...

49:11?Alright, that was Leftovers, and now on to the Bates interview.

49:16BaitsHi, I'm Sonja from Bates. Hi, I'm Fatso from Bates. I'm Grisi from Bates. Bernd from Bates.

49:23HostBates! Love your band, been following your band for a long time. How was life? You were on tour recently.

49:30BaitsWe played a couple of festivals, summer festivals, so yeah. Something big? Yes, we actually played the Siget Festival in Hungary, that was like the biggest gig ever.

49:41HostHow was the experience?

49:43BaitsGreat, we had a mosh pit at 4.30 in the afternoon.

49:46HostWhat was the difficult part? Tell me more about the Siget. What was the difficult part? What didn't you expect about the festival?

49:53BaitsBasically that it's so well organized. Everything was like really, really, really nice. People took care of us very well. We had one artist manager and she took care of us the whole time. Walked around with us, watched Tame Impala with us. And we were really treated very well there. So that was amazing.

50:12HostThat was the difficult part.

50:13BaitsThat was no difficult part. Except for checking in at the hotel. You remember that shit show? That was difficult. We arrived at the same time with a Spanish tour bus and there were a lot of tourists in the lobby. And one guy was complaining that they didn't clean his room. Why don't you clean the room? I want to speak to the manager. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. A lot of haywire. Hours. It took us hours to get out.

50:43HostThis is like the most horrible part of the Siget festival, right?

50:47BaitsYeah. I would love to tell some brutal stories, but we were really treated very nice. We had a great time.

50:53HostNo broken guitars, no broken legs this time. No.

50:57BaitsMaybe it was hot. It was hot. It was very hot. Yeah, and the climate change is very visible when it doesn't rain on the Danube island and everybody's wearing face masks. But it's not because of COVID, but because of the dust. Because everything is so dry that you can't breathe.

51:15HostShit, I didn't know that.

51:17?Yeah.

51:17BaitsIt was kind of brutal for people with no backstage room, I guess.

51:23?I'm sorry.

51:24HostSo you were hiding in the backstage all the time? No, not true.

51:26BaitsJust me. I was hiding. They went to Damien Bala. Yeah, we ran around a lot because the stage that we played on was very close to the main stage. So it took us like 10 minutes to walk there and see the show. And there were a lot of people. And it was... Bernd even went through festival mode and took his shoes off.

51:46?Yeah. Yeah. Shoes off. Yeah.

51:48BaitsAnd he went... You know, the people were very welcoming. I felt great. I put my shoes off and then my shoes were caught in the van. So I had no choice anymore. And I had to go to Damien Bala. In the middle, we were at the front of stage, front of house, the spot. And I was there with no shoes on. That was kind of... That was brutal. That was brutal. I was expecting to spend the night at the medical center. It didn't happen though, fortunately. So nothing happened. No, actually it was just a very nice festival. We had really good times and well, that was it.

52:26HostSo the weirdest part that nothing happened and Bates was just fine.

52:31?Yeah.

52:32BaitsWe were great. The people were great. We had a really fun time. Our crowd had a really good time. We gave some autographs after the show.

52:41HostThe most bizarre story from Bates I could ever hear. You know, that everything was fine. Nothing to complain about.

52:47BaitsNothing. What is going on here? Bates has nothing to complain about. That's the story maybe.

52:52HostWell, you can complain about it, like your time in Italy and stuff.

52:56BaitsYeah, we can, but that's a, that's a different.

52:59HostOld time. I don't want to say, I don't want to hear about that stuff. It would be cool if Ziggy sucked and then they were like, oh, wow. Ziggy sucks.

53:07BaitsI don't think, I think they're putting a very lot, like very much heart into this festival. And you could feel it in every way there. Even the food was amazing. Like I had sour cherry soup. Wow. I had sour cherry soup. Like if never, it's a, like a Hungarian specialty. And it was really amazing. So at least they told us it's a Hungarian specialty. Maybe, maybe it was like the peace pot from yesterday. It's like, wow, it's no, no, I guess. No, of course not. We were ruining my good time, my food good time, you know.

53:40HostSo amazing experience at Ziggy, right? How did you end up on Ziggy? What's the secret?

53:46BaitsUh, FM4?

53:48?Connections?

53:49BaitsNo, we actually won voting.

53:52HostI think I voted for you.

53:53BaitsYeah. Well, that's how we got there. So you're part of the reason. So it's because of you that we're there.

53:59HostYou know, what's funny, I just remember right now, not because I did research. I knew that there was voting, but I forgot that I actually voted for you.

54:06BaitsYeah, there was voting and we were voted. And we like came in first place and that's why they send us to Ziggy. Yeah. And, and we won the sundowner slot at four o'clock. Yeah. At four o'clock. So FM4 kind of put it out as like, yeah, you're going to play when the sun goes down at Ziggy Festival. And apparently. How do you imagine the situation when you're playing on stage and the sun goes down and the light becomes orange and stuff, but we played at four o'clock. So we didn't get any of that. It was brutally fucking hot. It's dead. Yeah. It was. Yeah. Like during soundcheck, it was like, fuck, how are we going to do this?

54:43HostWell, it's like almost like three or four interviews, last interviews that they did in a row, everybody complained about the heat on the stage. So it's not here.

54:53BaitsYes, yes, yes, yes, yes. No, they have no clue.

54:56?I have no clue.

54:57HostIt was 36 here once.

54:59BaitsI heard it. I heard it. I heard that too. And I don't understand it because we're outside and it's not really that hot. And yes, the spots maybe, but I don't know. Maybe they, they changed the lights with some heaters or something like that.

55:13HostWell, it's, it's the lights. It's always the lights and whatever.

55:17BaitsYeah. If you play in a rock band, get used to it. Yeah. I don't know.

55:20HostI swear the whole day, every day, just alcohol and other substances will help you out.

55:27BaitsWater. Water. It's a good idea when you're sweating.

55:29HostThat's why I said substances. Yes.

55:31?Yeah. Liquids. Liquids. Liquids.

55:33HostHow do you get pumped out before the gig? Liquids.

55:38BaitsDifferent liquids. It's, it's kind of a mixture between, uh, hanging out, like in a closed, uh, environment with, with just us, and jackets on, try to move, can't. It's like a really nice experience. The music and stands to it. That's, that's a really nice ritual that we, uh, didn't do a lot the last couple of shows, but I really enjoyed it when we did it. Uh, techno music, techno music and dancing around like idiots. And we try to drink at least one bottle of, uh, Prosecco together.

56:15?Yeah.

56:16BaitsIt's like the poor man cocaine.

56:17HostAll right. Didn't expect that.

56:19BaitsBut the Prosecco punks actually. Mm-hmm. Champagne punks.

56:23HostThat's why I ask everybody, you know, once I interviewed a band that, uh, playing two metal and they said they drink margaritas on tour. And since then I'm asking everybody, what are they drinking on tour? What do you drink on tour?

56:37?Champagne.

56:39BaitsMostly like bubbly, bubbly stuff actually. Cause, cause beer and, and, and, and two like hard drinks is, is kind of unhealthy. I have a feeling that like bubbly stuff, uh, keeps you on a, on a high all the time. And, uh, and the hangover is not too bad. Yeah. Beer makes you, beer makes you just so tired.

56:59?Like it's eating several meals in a bottle.

57:02BaitsAnd, and I, when I go on stage, I can't have that. I can't feel like somebody, you know, like I swallowed a rock or something.

57:09HostYeah. Beer is, uh, is liquid bread.

57:11BaitsYeah, exactly. I don't want to eat like, imagine eating three or four breads before going on stage. And then the light burns down on you. And how are you going to process that?

57:20HostAnd you're like quite an active band. So you need to jump around a lot. What's actually like, uh, the best stage environment for you? Closed, uh, small bar or a huge stage, open, closed area.

57:32BaitsI guess we can, we, we can do it all. But for me, I prefer like the mid clubs stuff, like hundreds people. Yeah. I guess that's my thing. Uh, I don't mind if there are 500 people, I guess, but I, I like it when the stage is kind of intimidated. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid. Intimid.

57:56HostYou can feel the smell of the people next to you.

58:00BaitsYeah. Yeah. I actually like, uh, outdoor shows a lot because there's always a nice breeze. It's at a certain point. And, um, You see farts in the right BPM all the time. Yeah. I really, I really need this.

58:13HostUh, and how many people were at Seaget?

58:16BaitsI don't know. Uh, totally, totally.

58:19HostAt your gig or like, or, or at the question is what was the biggest amount of people you had at the gig so far?

58:26BaitsI don't know. I guess two to 300, I guess. Something like that. Yeah. But like, like at festivals, like Seaget, it's really hard to tell because you have like the active audience and you have the audience who don't really see like they are like far away or they're on the sides and, or they are lying in the grass. I don't know.

58:47HostLying in the grass. How do you cool down after the gig?

58:49?AC. AC. DC.

58:53BaitsNo, um, a well-tempered, uh, backstage room. Uh, I try, I try to get outside if it's like, a club show or something. I try to get it outside as quick as I can, but try to get inside again. Cause I'll get sick if I like stay like five minutes the next day. So it's, it's, I don't cool down after gigs, I guess. I don't cool down. Sonja is at the merge. Yeah. I immediately have to go to the merge. So to be.

59:22HostYou don't have a merge person now.

59:23BaitsNo, we do everything ourselves.

59:25HostEverything yourself. Booking also, right?

59:27?No. Not anymore.

59:28BaitsNot anymore. That was a big step up because I used to do the booking all by myself. And it's a shit ton of work. And especially with COVID kind of, you know, making a lot of postponements and stuff like that. And, you know, booking tours. Yeah. I'm very, very happy that we have a very good booker. Sonja, who's your booker now?

59:46?Sorry? Who is it now?

59:48BaitsUh, Lessig Booking. Yeah. Money, money from Lessig Booking. He does a good job. Oh yeah. He's good. Yeah. He's a really, really, really capable guy. Except for the fact that he has never shown us his butthole, which we demanded. He's really tried it hard. He didn't really ask me any time. We demanded, but he refuses to show us his butthole.

60:06HostOn this podcast, everything is possible.

60:09?It's a podcast.

60:10HostActually, actually, like, uh, when I interviewed the band, Your Mom, I connected them to Lessig Bookings and together they had a gig later.

60:22BaitsWith Hank Spoiler. Yeah, yeah. And now they're going on tour in the UK together.

60:28?Yeah.

60:28BaitsIt's all because of you again.

60:30HostThanks to this podcast. Not me. It's all people. So Asphal is not a mythical thing. Yeah. We can see it someday. We just need enough people to push him and to show him. Barrett, you're the new old bass player now. It's been, you've been in the band since last summer, I think, at least.

60:50?Last summer, right.

60:51BaitsYeah, uh, since last July, I think, uh, we kicked off with a lot of shows. So I came into the band and we played all the time, which was really cool to join the band at this very time.

61:02HostWhat kind of meme tests had you had to pass to get into Bates?

61:06BaitsActually, I'm really not a good, uh, social media person. So I'm not on Instagram, a little bit on Twitter and Facebook. I was like, kind of, I don't do social media.

61:16HostWell, actually you're part of the meme sphere now. Thanks to photo here.

61:23BaitsFunny for me as well. Yeah.

61:25HostSo basically you became a meme yourself. You didn't have to, to, to pass any tests.

61:31?Yeah.

61:31HostHow are you feeling about that?

61:32BaitsUm, well, you know, we, we talk about it sometime when, when some like, I don't know. Joking?

61:39?What?

61:41BaitsI, you know, okay. I, I can say that, that, um, it was kind of strange to me at the start, you know, having a camera in front of yourself, uh, at times where you don't expect it, but, um, I came to appreciate it because Fatso, our social media dudes, has a great sense of humor and you can just trust that, um, something funny comes out of it. And I guess that's my answer to the meme part of the band.

62:07HostYeah, actually. Yeah. As I said before we started recording is that it was quite fun to go through your social media channels because they're actually fun. The main pages and everything is really cool. You actually have TikTok account.

62:20?Yeah.

62:20HostNot many bands have it.

62:22BaitsI hate TikTok. You hate it. It's a pest. TikTok is really like the worst. I, I just, I just, we just do it because I don't know if, if you're like 12 or something or you have no life here, maybe follow us. It looks good. It's, it's okay, but I just do the same. It's, it's the same thing like on Instagram. So TikTok are just like the stories on Instagram. I don't do like, or we don't do like this whole, uh, TikTok thing where we do TikTok exclusive videos and like trends.

62:51HostSo basically we're posting stuff.

62:52BaitsYes, it's everywhere the same. Like the priorities are Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, I guess. And then music at the end. And then maybe music.

63:04HostMaybe music. What makes a good baits mean? What are the elements of the baits specifically baits mean?

63:12BaitsI guess it has to be like trashy, but classy.

63:18HostIt can be like shit covered in glitter.

63:21BaitsIt's, it's a Polish turd.

63:23HostI would say it's classy. I understand my faults. Like fuck, it's like, nobody likes glitter.

63:30BaitsMaybe, maybe, maybe we, we have a glam or a hair metal phase in front of us. Yeah. Maybe hair metal is coming back and maybe we should do it. I'm totally for the hair.

63:42?Yeah.

63:42HostWell, you had the photo session in eighties style, right? Your current band photo.

63:48BaitsSeventies. Seventies. Yeah. My idea was more glam rock than, than, than eighties.

63:53?Yeah.

63:54BaitsUh, like, uh, New York dolls and, uh, what was his name? Uh, T-rex.

64:01HostT-rex, uh, eye makeup.

64:02BaitsUh, that on, in a new way.

64:05HostYou got signs to noise rec, noise.

64:08BaitsNoice appeal. Noice appeal.

64:10HostNoice appeal records. Right. I remember, I think we met three years ago and I remember back then you said, I don't get why people get signed to record. What's the point of a record label?

64:21?What's changed?

64:22BaitsUh, how much we, how much work it is. Um, we all work jobs. We are regular jobs. Yeah. We all have regular jobs. Like, uh, well, you do have a job. I do have a job, but I, I wouldn't say it's a regular job. But you're, it seemed like being, you know, but yeah, the point is, we have a life and we have like other stuff to do on the band.

64:48BaitsThe priorities have, um, for, to be in a band, you have to be aware of what, what is the role that you want to do in the band. And up to a certain point, it's okay to do everything yourself. Like we did, you know, booking and you know, we, we did our old, we put our old records on, on a CD baby and stuff and did it all ourselves. But, um, of course, if you want to, if you get to a certain point and you want to go further, then you need other people to work with. That may be a book or that may be a label that has connections that takes away a part of the work that you have to invest. So you can focus on playing live gigs, um, and making music. For, for me, it's, it's more like, uh, um, a situation where you get more people in the band. Like you, you don't stop doing work and you don't stop, uh, doing, uh, the whole, uh, writing stuff and mailing stuff and, and the bureau stuff. Uh, but there are other people who like can do it better or can do it like in, in, uh, addition to our work. So we're still a DIY band, but like, it depends on, uh,

66:00HostI don't think any label gives you like everything 100%.

66:03?You still need to do a lot of social media.

66:06HostThe label was not going to do your social media. You have to do it yourself.

66:09BaitsSure, sure, sure, sure.

66:10HostUh, so how long did it take you to get, so this is like a proper label, right?

66:15?Yeah.

66:15HostSo how long did it take you to, to, to get signs to a proper label?

66:18BaitsWell, we've been on another label before that, but with our, like our album was released on, on the Mavi records. Um, but we didn't feel super at home there. So we were looking for other labels and then our booker, um, recommended noise appeal and they were interested. And then we talked and they were like, yeah, okay. We have this idea we want to make a tape because those are songs that are kind of in between a new record and the old record and they don't fit anywhere for real, but they're good. So let's release them. And they were like, yeah, let's do it. And we're like, yeah, okay, fine.

66:53HostWhy did you decide to produce tapes?

66:55BaitsBecause it's four songs, what are you going to do with four songs, uh, seven inch in these days when, uh, you know, um, other artists like Harry Styles are, you know, taking over the record production companies and get put in advance, um, because they are selling like a million vinyls and not like 300, like we are. So, I mean, you know, a tape is much easier to get, has a good format, looks cool. Fits our, our idea of, you know, how many did you produce? I think 100.

67:28?Yep. Yeah.

67:29BaitsSmall amount. Yeah. So it's a collector's item.

67:32HostI'm going to buy one if, if you still have it.

67:34BaitsYeah, definitely. Definitely. Yes.

67:36HostI'm talking about tapes for the last 20 interviews and episodes and whatever, and nobody has done them.

67:44?Yeah.

67:45BaitsYeah. It's actually our second, third tape. Bates has released three tapes, right? We did one tape, um, that was shades and then we had another kind of, uh, uh, stalker shades. There was both kind of put together and now we have another one. So if you're a serious collector, you should have three Bates tapes by now.

68:04HostI already feel that you're so matured as a band, you know, like, like you're already talking like in a professional studio. You can see immediately when the band is only starting, when they have a lot of experience, you know, you sound already okay. I know there's a marriage. We know about the records label and stuff. Actually, what are your expectations at this point? You know, like, first of all, what, what, what are your plans for the band for this year?

68:32?Uh, I guess this year is, I think we can say we like survived the whole, uh, COVID thing very well. I think we grew a lot.

68:42BaitsI think we played like really, really a lot of shows, especially for COVID times.

68:49HostAnd you got the drummer and COVID time, oh, the drummer, the bass player.

68:53BaitsYes, sure, sure. Uh, but for this year, it's just like finished the last shows we had. It was like, I don't know, five shows or something like that. And then we will start recording our second, uh, album. Um, like going forward. Uh, we always had like a plan to like be the best fucking band in the universe.

69:16?Yeah.

69:16HostAh, here, professional talking. Yeah. We're the fucking the best.

69:20BaitsIt's like, it's, it's always, it's always like that. Like, what are your plans with the band? Blah, blah, blah. Uh, it's to get rich and famous. It's, it's, it's always the same thing. And then to make, and to, to make it like, uh, I don't care if I, uh, if I have to work like four jobs, like the band is like four jobs. Uh, I will do it, uh, till, uh, I'm satisfied with the, with, with the band. Or till I don't want to do it anymore. But right now, like you're in it. We're all not, you know, we're not 20 years anymore. So we're doing this because we're convinced of that. What we're doing is good. And then we have a contract. We do have a, we do have a contract.

70:02HostSo ladies and gentlemen, base has a contract.

70:06?We have a contract. Yeah.

70:08BaitsWe signed a contract with the devil and now we have to deliver. And yeah.

70:13HostIf you meet the devil at the crossroads, how would it, he, she look like?

70:18BaitsLike that guy over there, like a grasshopper with a, with a hat on his head. I guess it would be a frog. A frog. Frog.

70:30HostThat devil would appear in front of base as a frog.

70:33BaitsAs a frog. I think so.

70:35?Yeah.

70:35HostIt's a good, it's a good meme.

70:37BaitsNo, it's a, and then it's going to ask, well, if you want to get famous, you just have to lick me from my, in my butt crack and then you're going to get famous. And that's. And Bernd is like, I'm all in.

70:48BaitsIf it's wonderful. Come on over, baby. If I crack, I'm all over, baby.

70:53HostOh, finally I hear the real base. Of course, I will ask him the wrong questions, but I had to ask them. When I was asking about the plans, usually what's a, it's a question actually to push people who are like your experience, okay, you're fine. But the people who are not experienced just so that they start thinking of what to do in this year because, so that, okay, you should do something.

71:15BaitsYou know, there's stuff to do. Yeah. But we already have a plan until the end of the year. We have a contract. We have a contract. We will have to.

71:21HostFor a couple of albums.

71:22BaitsUh, yeah. 12 actually. Not as a joke. Come on. Like one. I guess, I guess we, we signed with the devil. You know, maybe they don't know. Yeah. I think we will do like six albums. I, I, I guess that's the, I think we do six albums.

71:37HostYou know, do one and then we'll see.

71:39?Yeah.

71:39BaitsYeah. A second one. You mean?

71:41?Yeah.

71:41HostWell, one, yeah. On the, on the new one.

71:43BaitsSure.

71:44HostYou never know. But so far you're satisfied with the label and everything's fine, right?

71:47BaitsYeah. Right now we're, we can be happier except for playing more Seaget Fest, like more festivals that are kind of Seaget style. So I wouldn't mind playing Reading or Leeds or, um, I don't know, Glastonbury or something or Duna Jam.

72:02HostAre you planning to have a wardrobe, a different outfit on stage?

72:07BaitsUm, actually here tonight, not, but I already have different types of outfits. So yeah, certain point. Definitely. We're, you know, it's all fun of dressing up and going out there.

72:18HostAll right, Bates. Uh, I already like bored you with my questions. Uh, which song are we going to listen at the end of this episode? Which Bates song should I put at the end?

72:27BaitsI would say brief, brief.

75:14?All right. And that was Bates. And now onto the solo interview.

75:19SodlHello, I'm Sodel.

75:21HostSodel, hello. Would you consider yourself a heartbreaker?

75:25?A heartbreaker?

75:26SodlI hope that I'm not a heartbreaker.

75:29HostYou don't want to break any hearts?

75:31SodlI want to be a heart healer.

75:32HostA heart healer, all uniting with the power of the music.

75:37SodlWith the power of the music, I think you can do many things to a heart. You can break it. You can also heal it. And you can make it cry. You can do many things. And I hope that I don't break it.

75:48HostYou don't? Yes. Uh, the music that I heard is warm and sunny. And it doesn't have all your music. Warm, sunny, ocean, ocean-y, ocean-y, like warm, somewhere sunny. Uh, especially because of the accordion. Can you explain what's the musical instrument that you play?

76:13SodlMusical instrument? I play with a guitar with Reverend Bixby. It's an ivory-green guitar, which I very love. And in my recordings, I also use a Russian bottom accordion. And some other instruments I can't really play. But I just somehow put them in my recordings and act like I can play them. Like a double bass. I don't know.

76:38HostWell, I mean, I didn't know. I mean, I knew about the accordion. But how did you end up playing the accordion?

76:45?The, what?

76:45HostHow do you know how to play the Russian accordion?

76:49SodlI actually learned it in music school.

76:52HostIs it like a weird instrument to learn?

76:55SodlA weird, I think it's pretty unusual. Unusual, it's unusual. Many people don't know it, but I think it's quite interesting. And I learned it since I was seven, so I know it quite well.

77:09HostIn a music school?

77:10?Yeah.

77:11HostOkay, so you went to the music school and you learned, what's the difference between a Russian accordion and a normal? Well, not normal, but the other one.

77:20SodlThere are these typical Austrian accordions, which are like Hüttengaude, Andreas Gavarier stuff. And that's not my kind of accordion. And there are accordions with piano.

77:36HostWe need to say that who those people are, the one that you mentioned, Andreas Gavarier, for the people who don't live in Austria.

77:44SodlOh, he is a person who is...

77:49?Pop, folk.

77:50SodlHe is many, many left people. Do you like him?

77:54?Not, not...

77:55HostDo you like him as a musician?

77:57SodlNo, I don't like him as a person and not as a musician.

78:00HostAnd as a person?

78:01SodlBecause we can form it like that. Left people do not agree with them.

78:07HostOh, okay. So for his beliefs and political views.

78:12?Yes. All right. What about his music?

78:14SodlIt's not for me.

78:16HostOkay. So what does he play?

78:19SodlSchlager.

78:20HostHow do you explain it to the people?

78:25HostMusic for the masses, for the mass amount of people, of older generation, plus... How do you describe it?

78:34SodlI actually don't know it. It's quite commercial, I think.

78:38HostIt's like pop music for old people.

78:41?Yeah.

78:42HostFor a certain kind of people.

78:44SodlFor a certain kind of people, yes. Just specific. I'm not an expert in Schlager.

78:48HostI'm trying to explain what Schlager is. Okay.

78:52?I don't know how to explain.

78:53SodlI don't know either.

78:54HostOkay, we don't care about it.

78:57HostSo, accordion. That's what I said when I heard your music. That's why I said sunny, ocean. Like, because the accordion gives this warm feeling, you know? It immediately reminds me of pirates.

79:13?You know, Libby? Yeah.

79:15SodlIt reminds me of Paris.

79:17HostOf Paris. Exactly. Okay. Paris. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But something far away out of this world where we live in at the moment. So, it's like really exotic for you. It sounds really exotic. But the new record that I heard, uh, Flowers on the Moon, right?

79:36SodlIt's the old record, actually.

79:37HostIt's old. What's the new one?

79:38SodlThe new one is, um, And a far be schlafen des Kind.

79:41?Ah.

79:41SodlWith three songs.

79:43HostThree songs, right. But I don't think there's much accordion in the new.

79:47SodlIt is. There is an entire instrumental piece, actually. Yeah, man. In the Flowers on the Moon, there's no accordion. Maybe you have, um...

79:56HostYeah, maybe I confused them. All right. Maybe, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Um, because, um, you have only one EP.

80:05SodlYeah, I have one EP, Flowers on the Moon. One single, O2B Wild Strike the Universe. And one EP-ish thing with three songs.

80:15?All right.

80:16SodlThere are seven songs on Spotify.

80:18HostYes, that's what they saw. Actually, regarding this one. Actually, regarding the Spotify. Uh, did you know that your public playlists are public?

80:27SodlMy public playlists are public?

80:29HostYeah. The music that you saved for your personal music that you listened to, I think it's public. For example, for example, for example. Okay. Maybe it's, maybe something, uh, a mistake. For example, you have psychedelic witchcraft radio.

80:45SodlYes, I didn't know these are public.

80:48HostThey are public. They're like seven or eight, uh, albums of what you choose. They're all public.

80:54?Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

80:58HostSo, uh, the connection why I asked about psychedelic, uh, witchcraft is because I made an album cover for them.

81:03?Oh, really? Yeah.

81:05HostI mean, I think it's a special band for me because because of them, I started to, uh, I believed myself that they can be in the music industry. I send them an album cover just like, Hey guys, what did you like to check out? It's like, yeah, we like it. We're going to use it and that's on the vinyl. So that's, that's my connection to psychedelic witchcraft, but you don't look like a person who would listen to psychedelic witchcraft.

81:29SodlNo, I look, I don't think I look like that, but I do.

81:34HostWhat attracts you is it the music genre or is it the atmosphere around the music?

81:42SodlI think both. I listened to hard music.

81:45HostWhat kind of bands do you listen to?

81:46SodlUm, I listened to the American betters women with hard guitars thing like Phoebe Bridgers or Julian Baker. And my favorite musician is Alice Phoebe Lou, but she's not that hard. She's more like soft and gentle, but she can be. And, um, I listened to Janice Chaplin and Jimi Hendrix. And I think I listened to very much, very many, um, musicians that I can't remember now.

82:17HostYeah. When I saw that public playlist that you have, I was surprised. I was like, okay, it's, uh, I would imagine that you would listen to, because when I, when I heard your music, I immediately started to comparing you to, uh, uh, uh, uh, the singer songwriters of the Northern countries. So like Agnes Obel.

82:41SodlLike, um, Aurora.

82:42HostAurora. Exactly. I really love her.

82:44?Yeah.

82:44HostYes. And, uh, the difference is like, uh, with your music, it sounds, as I said, more sunny. And then the Nordic, uh, singers are like more colder. So which I, and I wrote in my notes, anti-Norwegian music.

83:00?Anti-Norwegian.

83:01SodlYeah. I think you can, you can put it in that way. I think, um, the, the Northern artists influence my music, just like any other band that I listen to does. It's just there.

83:14HostYeah. Um, for example, I'm a fan of Agnes Obel and Aurora. That's why I mentioned them. And you also mentioned without me even hinting about it. You have a plan to stick with the accordion, uh, use it more because I think it's your, one of the strong points in your music. Not that many people combine those two together.

83:36SodlYeah. It's a bit difficult because I have this, uh, part, this part of me that wants to make more, like neoclassic music with accordion, very modern things. But I also just want to scream and use very hard guitars on stage. And, um, I kind of have to combine these two parts of me.

84:01HostQuestion. Have you heard, do you know, Kretznovaselich, or he was, uh, the, he was the, uh, bass player of Nirvana.

84:10SodlNirvana? Oh, I do know Nirvana.

84:12HostExactly. They have a new project and it's called Third Secret. It's a band and they use accordion a lot. So it's grunge plus a part with the accordion there. And that's what reminded me of you are right now at the perfect time with your music to like combine it all. And that I got the feeling from one of my favorite songs is Ocean that you have, that you have, I think on FMFIA, you know, but that's what I like. It's like, uh, I mean, there's no accordion there, but still it has this, uh, attitude. Um, uh, where do you want to go? Do you want to go soft? You said you want to scream. How do you, how do you feel with your new music? For example, which?

84:58SodlMy new music? What do you mean when you're saying my new music?

85:00HostAre you working on a new music right now?

85:03SodlYeah, but I'm, my music is just me and I'm so many different parts. So it's, it's so, um, it's so diverse.

85:15HostAlso a question, how much of, you said it's you, how much of you is in your lyrics for example?

85:23SodlWell, I, I really like lyrics. I hate it when lyrics don't have much meaning. So my, I, I try to give my music, uh, my lyrics as much meaning as I, as I can. So I think maybe 99%.

85:38Host99%. You take the stuff that you experienced in your life and you put in the lyrics. Kind of.

85:45?Yes.

85:45HostWould you consider yourself a musician, a performer, a poet, a songwriter? Which one is the closest to your, to you?

85:54SodlI'm not a performer. I think the performance just comes when I perform. Um, I maybe wouldn't consider myself as a poet either because, but that's just because I'm so hard on myself. Maybe if I wouldn't be so hard on myself, I would say I'm a poet. But I think my poetry isn't that good. So I would consider myself as an artist. And, or what does an artist mean to you?

86:24HostUh, artist is simple for me. Uh, it's somebody who still after, uh, a hundred years is somewhere known or in a way, or in a museum. Some kind of. A museum.

86:38SodlCan you picture me in a museum?

86:41?That's the thing. No, we don't know. That's why I don't say that I'm an artist or you, or I just don't say that we're artists because all the time will tell who will be. It's not really a proper way how to judge if somebody is an artist or maybe somebody is really like a real artist, but he's forgotten or she's forgotten.

87:02HostAnd it's not in a museum for hundreds of years, but, uh, for me, I, I, uh, it's somebody that only, only time will tell if somebody is a true artist or not.

87:18SodlI actually think different about this one because I think an artist is just somebody who makes art. And to make, in order to make my art, you have to, um, take your life and give it, put it in another form. And I think through music, this is possible.

87:36HostYou consider yourself an artist?

87:38SodlI consider myself an artist, no matter if anybody's gonna remember me. That has nothing to do with that.

87:45HostAre you still an artist if you're getting paid and somebody tells you that you should take this part of your song, for example, a couple of lines from the lyrics and you'll get paid a lot. And this song, for example, will be everywhere on the radio.

88:07SodlWhat do you mean when somebody says, I could, somebody tells you, somebody tells you, I will pay you change a song for the rate. Oh, I would be really mad if somebody told me that.

88:19HostYeah, for example, one of your songs is really good, but you need to cut out the most important parts.

88:25SodlIf I agree with the person, I would definitely do it. But if I don't, it's my art. So nobody should tell me what to do. I think art for me personally, I know that's not the general definition of it, but, um, you have to love your art. And if you sell your art without loving it, it's not art anymore.

88:46HostGraphic design, graphic design.

88:49SodlMy graphic design is made by Carla Lawrence. And she's a very good friend of mine. And she drew, um, have, uh, not have you seen like, um, she drew flowers on the moon. Have you seen the cover?

89:00HostYes. I really liked the cover. It's you or it's a blue, uh, blue cover, right? No, no, no, no.

89:06SodlThere are all the songs are in the cover art. It's eternity. It's a watch.

89:10HostOh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Your, your covers are really cool.

89:15SodlThank you. And the, the other, um, covers are by my mom. She painted them.

89:19HostOh yeah. That's what I mean, because it's in my head. It's confirmed. I see it all together. I don't remember the names of, of what you, but I remember the covers of course. They're really good.

89:29SodlBut my mom didn't paint them, especially for me. She just painted them some years ago when I was still a child, but these are hanging on our walls. Um, the cover of oh, to be vast like a universe is hanging on our toilet. So I am watching it while I am shitting and I thought it's maybe great cover for this song.

89:51HostWhat is the stage for you? Is it, uh, it's a place for you to be somebody else or is it a place for being a true self?

90:01SodlIt's definitely a place to be my true self because I'm, I don't know if you noticed, but I'm very socially anxious and awkward and at the moment you're not, uh, you're behaving totally fine. Okay. Thank you. But I, I have troubles, um, when I'm meeting new people and it's very socially exhausting for me. And, but when I'm on stage and I'm just singing my songs, I don't have to try to show people who I am because they just know or they don't know. And it's okay.

90:32HostSo you're as you're an introvert and socially awkward person in real life. Yeah.

90:38SodlBut on stage I'm not, that's cool.

90:40HostThat's the whole point why people do go into probably arts in general. Yeah. Yeah. It's not only musicians, actors also. Do you do also other kinds of art except not only music?

90:55SodlI'm doing poetry, but not that much at the moment. I have been doing it a lot, like one year ago, but now it's, it's not that much anymore. Maybe it comes again.

91:07HostYou know, you mentioned poetry. Actually you, you started playing music, uh, as solo, not that long ago, right? A solo? Oh, as a solo.

91:17SodlAs a solo. Yeah. Yeah. I had my first show, it was a little gig in my hometown in 2019. And I'm doing, um, these lots of summer shows since 2020. So it's two years.

91:33HostUh, and before you had a band, you had some people with you and then you, I think you moved to, to, to Vienna.

91:41SodlYeah. I moved to Vienna last October, one year ago.

91:44HostHow was it an experience for you to move into a big new city, especially for a socially, uh, introverted person?

91:54SodlIt was difficult because I, when I observe people, I cannot distance myself. And when I'm sitting in the subway station, I kind of put all the people into my heart and think about them so much, but it got better. And I'm coming from a very small town in upper, not very small town, but smaller town than Vienna from upper Austria. And it's very lovely there. It's a big lake and mountains and very naturey surroundings. So it's very different to Vienna, but I love Vienna now.

92:26HostIt's just a lot of people and that's the biggest problem.

92:30SodlAnd you kind of have to learn to distance yourself from them. I don't, um, I don't put everybody in my heart now.

92:36HostIt's the first time I hear that somebody puts everybody in the heart.

92:41SodlIt's quite exhausting to be honest.

92:44HostSo you have a lot of empathy. You care about the people.

92:47SodlI care a lot. Yes.

92:49HostWow. Do you think that, and, and you said that you also put almost, almost 100% of you in your music.

92:59?Hmm.

92:59HostYeah. I'm pretty sure you're really tired all the time.

93:03SodlYes. I am.

93:05HostBecause you care what people, and do you care what people think about you, for example, on the stage?

93:10SodlOn the stage, I care much less than in real life. That's what makes it so, so lovely for me.

93:18HostSo it's like a stage or music. It's like a shield for your true self?

93:24SodlMm-hmm. Kind of. Because I think when I'm on stage, I'm just being my true self and nobody can change that. But in real life, I have to try it because I think it's quite difficult to be myself sometimes. I don't know. I'm mistaking myself.

93:38HostWell, when you're in real life, what kind of stage is ideal for you? Small, huge, closed, open. I know that you did a birthday party recently.

93:51SodlAh, yes. I did a birthday party. It was really cool because the person who was celebrating the birthday was crying so much. And it was a bit overwhelming, to be honest, because they were just strangers, strangers to me. But it was also a very intimate experience with somebody you don't really know. But I played at Kramladen like two weeks ago. And that was perfect for me because it was a kind of small stage. And it was dark and it was inside. And people were just listening to me. And it was good energy there. I don't like two big stages. And I don't like it when there is so much area that people aren't together.

94:38HostYou like really intimate. So small bars, dark. You like darkness, probably. Yes.

94:46SodlI played today and it was still light. But I think the sun was going down. It was a bit too light for me.

94:54HostIt was too light. Yeah. Most musicians I talked to today, they don't like the bright light. They need darkness.

95:00SodlIt's also for the light show. It looks so much better.

95:02HostAlso for the light show.

95:03SodlBut I'm not afraid of playing in front of big, on big stages. But I just like it to be intimate and to be very, that there is an honest contact with the public. The public.

95:17HostNow, what are your plans for the end of this year? Do you have any plans, gigs, concerts?

95:24SodlI have a few gigs in Vienna, in September. But I really have the dream of recording an album. And I hope that I can kind of, I don't have to record it now. But that I can kind of pursue the stream.

95:38HostAre you planning to change your music a little bit in the direction of pop, solo singer, songwriter? For example, Aurora, there's more like electronic elements there. You know what I mean?

95:53SodlNot really. Not really.

95:54HostYou want to stay. How would you describe the music that you play?

95:57SodlOh, I talked about it.

95:59HostI know. I said today, I know musicians don't like genres and don't.

96:05SodlI just don't know it. Can you tell me?

96:11HostSunny, warm, singer. What I said in the beginning, warm music with the elements of ocean. For me, because of the pirates.

96:24SodlIt's kind of sad because you don't know all of my songs. And I think if you knew performances of mine, which were at other locations, at other atmospheres, you would think differently. But you're true. You're true. You're right. You're right. Yeah.

96:44HostI mean, I only heard the music that you, that I found on Spotify or on YouTube.

96:50SodlAnd these are sunny and these are very high-hearted.

96:54HostYeah, exactly. And do you usually perform alone?

96:57SodlI was performing alone, but I don't really like it.

97:02HostYou want to be in a band?

97:03SodlNo, I just like having company around me.

97:07HostUh-huh. So you want to be on the stage also with your friends who are supporting you, so that there's not much pressure on you, not many eyes on you, kind of?

97:16SodlNo, I am the front woman. So I'm just playing with a drummer and that's enough for me. I have to do all the work besides drumming. And I have to play all the guitar things and have to be present, which is quite exhausting. But it's okay for me. I just want to have one person who is there for me in the backstage, in the whole things around the gig. I think playing at a location is the least exhausting thing about it.

97:45HostSo you just need somebody who's around you, who you can trust? Yeah.

97:48?Kind of, yes.

97:49HostAh, all right. So it doesn't have to be in a band.

97:52SodlYes, but I, that's another thing. I think when you're playing with somebody, there's so many beautiful things created between you. So it's kind of magic when you're playing with somebody. It's so different than when you play alone.

98:08HostWhat song do you want me to put at the end of this episode?

98:11SodlThe songs that I've put out are fine. I still like them, but I don't think that they're a too good introduction into my music. But if I have to choose, let's think. Maybe one of the more soft songs is Oh to be vast like the universe.

98:30HostExcellent. Solo, thank you very much for this interview. I wish you all the best.

98:33SodlThank you.

99:30?All right. Thank you very much, Solo. And thank you, dear listener, for staying that long. And thanks to all the musicians, of course. So yeah, that was Freakout Festival, which is not far from Vienna. It was a pretty cool place. In general, it was open air, really nice place, food and drinks. I really enjoyed it. I wanted to take some photos, took a camera with me, but actually didn't do it. Because first of all, too much hustle. Secondly, it started to become dark. And anyways, I wanted to focus more on the interviews. And the last couple of songs, it started to rain like hell. Luckily, well, kudos to the organizers.

104:10?We were provided with raincoats, so it helped a bit. And that's it. And then I went home with the last train. Got home and then everything was fine. And also, as promised, I bought the Bates tape. And, man, it's pretty cool. It's pretty cool in a way that when I came home... Actually, what they don't tell you... Bates don't tell you. And the band Bates. That actually, when you buy the tape, you also get the free digital download. They should tell you this. I didn't expect that. Anyways, the tape is pretty cool. And, yeah, what I didn't expect is that... Man, my hands remember how to behave with the tape. I mean, I open it automatically and put it into my tape player, which I have. Like, as if I... Man, I've been doing it for so many times. Haven't forgotten how to do it. Man, and the whole experience is cool. Sound is good. Sound is pretty good. And the tape design is good. Really recommend. Finally, tape! Anyways, don't forget to follow this podcast on any platform. Don't forget to spread the word about this podcast. And, yeah, check out the Patreon page at patreon.com slash Interceptor Beyond. Some cool exclusive content is coming soon. Also, you get to listen to the interviews to all the episodes before they become public. And that's it. I see you next time. Have a nice day! mate! Pattiiso!