Howling Giant

0:10HostWelcome to Interceptor Beyond Podcast. My name is Arthur and today we have a band. What a surprise. A nice, cool, awesome band. Howling Giant. You can read the title, you know already. It is a super awesome band and really nice and really cool people. It was recorded online and I released this interview just a couple hours, literally five hours after the recording. So it is right. It is fresh. Don't forget to follow the podcast on Nanny and Pat for more of your choice, leave a rating, and follow the podcast on Instagram at Interceptor Beyond. Leave a rating, hit a like. You know how it works. Anyways, let's listen to the interview. Mmm, the sweet AI voice.

0:53TomYeah, they're getting better and better, man. Those dulcet AI tones, you know.

0:58lLOYVKtmLcYHey, there's Tom.

1:03TomHey, I've been here, see you guys? Good to see you. Good to see you.

1:05SebastianOh, I haven't. Okay. I didn't know you were here.

1:08HostOh, maybe on his iPhone, it's like a screen is small so you can't see all the people. That's why.

1:14SebastianYeah, I didn't show all the people. So I thought there was just three of us. But anyway.

1:20?All right.

1:22HostIt would be cool if you were talking shit about Tom and then...

1:25lLOYVKtmLcYI know, yeah.

1:27TomI'm like, yo, I'm right here, Seabask. I mean, honestly, though, what else is new? That's just how we operate over here. That's right.

1:34HostYou know, like, I'm not going to, like, cut it out. I just want to continue with it. But still, can you please introduce yourself to our listeners so that we know your names and your voices? You know, because it's going to be audio only, so don't worry about it.

1:47?Cool. Gotcha.

1:47SebastianYeah, I'm Sebastian, and I am the bass player for Howling Giant.

1:53TomI'm Tom. I play guitar and kind of the lead vocals, I guess, in Howling Giant. Good to be here.

2:00ZachAnd I'm Zach. I play drums, do the vocal harmonies, and, you know, occasionally play Shaker and Cowbell on some stuff, you know?

2:09lLOYVKtmLcYCowbell, man.

2:10ZachI do think that should make it to the live show. Because that's like, we do it on the record, but we have yet to implement the Cowbell live, and I think that that's an opportunity that's being missed. 100%. When I track those, though, it's just like, I need a third arm. However, we just added a new guitar player, James Sanderson, and, you know, we'll just have him not play guitar during those parts, and he'll just slam a Cowbell front and center.

2:35HostSo he's the bellboy.

2:36lLOYVKtmLcYHe's the bellboy. He's our bellboy, exactly.

2:39HostOh, bellboy. Okay, well, two questions immediately. Okay, on which songs do we hear the Cowbell? Because we need to know. And secondly, with the Jason, you know, like, what's the story, you know, because it's a new information.

2:53ZachYeah, yeah. Cowbell is on Juggernaut on Glass Future and Hawk in a Hurricane, for sure. When we do percussion, like, at the, like, end of the record-making process, I kind of just go overboard, and I record way too much extra stuff, tambourine, cowbell, you know, any of that stuff. And then we cut back, because, yeah, I think when I first sent the tracks to the boys, there was, like, cowbell on, like, three-quarters of the record.

3:21TomI will admit, there was too much cowbell, but I think that the cowbell is an underutilized and powerful tool that, in the right way, can just bring any riff to the next level. We're listening to it, and I think we were like, man, we want those Kansas vibes on some of those riffs. And both Juggernaut and Hawk in a Hurricane have these sections with these, like, big pentatonic, just rock and roll riffs.

3:46lLOYVKtmLcYAnd you're like, man, you blend in a little cowbell, and it's on the next level. No doubt.

3:54HostJesus, you guys are crazy.

3:58HostMan, I mean, you never know. You might be asking for trouble, you know, with the cowbell, you know?

4:04TomYeah, I'm begging for it. I'm begging for trouble with the cowbell.

4:07HostYeah, you know, like, you should ask fans, you know, next time when we meet live, everybody brings a cowbell, we're gonna do all the thing together. You know, like, the battle, they do this, how it's called, the rowboat, or whatever. The rowboat, yeah. Now everybody brings up the fucking cowbell, and it just, like, starts, like, screaming, fuck you.

4:25TomI've heard about the rowboat. I've heard about the rowboat move. Could that move be pulled off at one of our shows, or does it have to be, like, a heavier metal that you're busting out the rowing?

4:36ZachI think the song that would make sense for people to do the rowing would be Wailord. So we'd have to be playing, like, super old tunes. But, like, that one makes sense, you know? It's shanty-like.

4:48?Okay.

4:49TomWe'll keep that in mind, I think. That would be a good idea.

4:52lLOYVKtmLcYBut I like the idea of...

4:53HostTake any of the songs and make it, like, 30% slower, you know? Yeah.

5:01SebastianI like the idea of everybody bringing a cowbell. That's, you know, that's pretty unique, you know? You can't get into the show without your cowbell, man.

5:09TomI was going to say, we are out here to make money, so you've got to buy a cowbell from the merch table, you know? This is not, you know? Buy your Howling Giant brand cowbell with a Howling Giant t-shirt over at the convenient merch table at the back, you know?

5:24HostA special limited edition with some sick-ass illustrations on the cowbell. And it's a good publicity, you know? Like, if you can get into the news, say, like, oh, my God, it's the first venue that has signed. Cowbell is prohibited to enter. Anybody with cowbell, like, no, you know, because there's already an accident. There's always... Yeah.

5:48?Oh, man. That would be great.

5:51HostYeah, totally a band that can bring back the cowbell.

5:55lLOYVKtmLcYWe're trying. We're doing it. We're going to do it.

5:58ZachHey, as for James Sanderson, you were asking. James, yes. James, yeah. He's been a good friend of ours for a very long time, and we started bringing him in to help us lyrically during Masamune, our split with Sergeant Thunderhoof. And we were kind of hitting a bit of a wall lyrically, and we brought him in to kind of advise us and help us break through. And that relationship kind of developed over the years, and he started going on the road with us as our merch guy. And then he really got involved in production and lyrics for Glass Future, so we started to discuss, like, okay, well, we have all these extra guitar parts and extra keys and organ parts on our records. It'd be great to bring some of that live. So right now we're getting James in on all guitar, and then one day it'd be nice to have him have, like, a little station on the side with keys, and now a cowbell, of course, as well. He'll be an all-purpose kind of utility guy, and that way we can bring a lot of that record sound live.

7:08HostYeah, it's actually, like, I wanted to ask regarding the record sound. It's like when you were writing music for this album, and first of all, congrats on the album. It's a fucking awesome album. Thank you. Really enjoy it. It's really awesome. Were you considering the live performance also, or is studio performance and live is completely different?

7:28TomI mean, there's definitely a balance that you have to find when you're doing both. I think in past records, we would just keep adding parts, especially as a guitar player. It's easy to keep adding harmonies and things to make the sound huge, and, you know, you can't always pull that off live. So this record, I think we really tried to, like, let's make something that will translate live. So we wrote that, and then I just couldn't help myself, and I went back and added harmonies on everything. So we were kind of, like, you know, not forced, but we had the opportunity to bring in the fourth member to try and realize it. That being said, there are always differences, you know? I think the beauty of a record is that you can add so many things to it and make it larger than life, and I think it's okay for that to be that way. The live show is pared down, but there's an energy that's tangible by being there that doesn't exist on the record. So they're two very different things that have, I think, really strong aspects, you know, but they are different.

8:27HostYeah, and also the show, the theatrical part of it, the cowbell, for example, right?

8:33TomIf it was up to me, we'd all just be playing cowbell, and that might be the next record, you know?

8:39lLOYVKtmLcYSo would you buy that record?

8:40HostJust put a distortion on the cowbell, and then it's going to be the drum from hell.

8:47?Yeah.

8:50HostYeah, so this is, like, the studio type of... Secondly, like, that album is sick. The new vinyl that is already sold out that I saw on the Instagram you wrote, the limited edition liquid... How would you describe this vinyl thing? I have no idea. It's sick as fuck.

9:10ZachYeah, so it's a liquid-filled vinyl, and our buddies were just friends with this guy in Paducah, Kentucky, that was making these records, and we were like, wow, we should do that. His waiting list is, like, six months long. So we did our first one with the Space Between Worlds, our first full-length record, and that went well and sold very quickly. So we were like, okay, we've got to get some for Glass Future. This thing looks so cool. And he customizes each one based off the identity of the record, too. So this one has the little dragon floating inside it and, like, fireballs.

9:44TomSo for anyone who might not know what that, like, looks like, it's basically two records that he's taken, and he has this way that he seals the outside and will inject with a liquid. So when the record is actually spinning, like, you'll see those colors and oils and all that, like, swirling around on the inside.

10:02?Yeah.

10:03TomBut like Zach said, he'll also put in those little, like, you know, those little images inside that float around in the oil. So it's really cool. I don't know how he does it. I think it's, like, top secret down in his lab, you know?

10:16HostI've never seen anything like this. I think it's, like, I just realized, not realized, I was thinking about today. It's, it opened up, like, a new niche in a vinyl production. I've never seen anything like this. Like, a super mega premium luxury vinyl. Like, super mega premium, you know? Yeah, yeah. Super limited edition, but it's freaking. And because of that, for example, I thought, like, why nobody is, like, selling vinyl players, turntables with lights under them, you know? Oh, yeah. That would look so sick with this vinyl, you know? But I think a new niche has opened up.

10:52TomYeah, I mean, that probably is the next level, right? Because over the last, like, five to ten years, there's been a huge resurgence in records, but it's been with a focus on, like, vintage, vintage gear, you know? Find the old Sabbath records and buy them from the dollar store or whatever, you know what I'm saying? But, yeah, that's maybe the next level is, like, make it the entertainment, like, section of your house, you know? What's the future of record players? I like the lights underneath. That's awesome. There are some amazing setups that we've seen just from fans alone, or if you join any of the, like, Facebook groups or Discords or whatever else it is, people share their, like, vinyl rigs.

11:30ZachAnd, like, remember, like, Bucky's setup, his record room he showed us ages ago, or, like, we got a fan, Brian, who, like, crafted, like, this really cool lighting setup, like you're talking about. But it's, you know, it's fan-crafted. He customized it for himself, so I'm sure, like, somebody's got to see that. Was it him where he had, like, lights set up that would react to the music, like the decibel levels or something? Someone had something hooked up. Somebody had that. I think it was Gavin, yeah, he had, like, so he had the smart light, the smart bulbs, the LEDs that can change color, and somehow he was syncing it up to, well, I think he does it to records, but he was also syncing it up to our Twitch streams. When we changed the color scheme, the colors in his room changed. So I went to a red light, and it would go red, like, that's wild. That's so sweet.

12:18lLOYVKtmLcYThis is so cool. Full immersion, yeah.

12:20HostSo next thing, you need to connect the electricity to your body, you know, to have this sensation. I see where it's going, like, slowly. I mean, you're not far from OnlyFans, you know, like doing Twitch.

12:35TomYeah, yeah. Listen, be careful with suggestions like that. You know, that might be the future of Howling Giant.

12:41?So only Howling Giant.

12:42HostI know where you're going. I see it already. No Twitch, this stuff. I see the endgame here.

12:50HostAnd you're also, like, going to do the Twitch stream. You started again, right? This Thursday, right?

12:58ZachYeah, we're getting back into it a little bit. And kind of, we did a bunch of different stuff over the pandemic, but now when we stream, it's typically kind of just like showing people our rehearsals. Like, we're getting ready for our tour with the Obsessed and Gozu. So we'll let people in once a week while we're prepping tunes and figuring out different arrangements and all that good stuff.

13:20HostYeah, because, like, I know that you started, I mean, in the last couple of months, like, last three months, you did, like, shit tons of interviews. That's why, like, I'm not asking the obvious questions because it's pretty much the same. But I have to say that, like, the album is great and I really love it. But I already know the answers to many questions. That's why this interview is so short.

13:44HostI don't want to ask the boring stuff. But you started Twitch during the Corona time. And then that's what I wanted to ask. When you're going to start doing that again, you know? But you already, like, posted about it today, I think.

14:00TomYeah, just this morning. And I think for us with Twitch, you know, we're not trying to, like, do it, like, all the time. We're kind of doing it when we can in between tours leading up to a tour. And I think that that's kind of the difference between, like, a regular Twitch streamer who's just going to, like, go on a regular schedule. Yeah. But this is kind of cool to say, hey, we got a tour coming up. So jump on in and check out the songs we're going to be working on for this tour. It's almost like a promo for the tour in a way.

14:29HostI mean, this is the recording of the creative process, which, like, kind of can be, like, even part of the documentary in the future. I don't know.

14:40SebastianWell, what's really cool is that we have so many, you know, we did that all through the pandemic. And a lot of it is recorded. So we can go back and check and see, like, hey, we were jamming that riff. Oh, that's a cool little riff. Let's work that into something, you know? And so then people hear the record come out and they say, I remember when that riff was written. Sorry. It was, you know, because I was there at that exact moment. So it almost makes it a more special thing for some of the fans. You know, when they listen to music, they can kind of take that journey with us of how the song was crafted.

15:22HostAnd I'm pretty sure, I mean, you have a chat, right, during the live streams. You read probably the chat. Do you, how much into consideration you are taking what people are writing there regarding, like, the music? They're, like, maybe between you, like, oh, that's sick. But somebody says it's not, like, on chat or vice versa, you know? Do, does it, actually, does it get to you mentally, you know?

15:43SebastianWell, I mean, we have a pretty good chat.

15:49SebastianAnd our chat feels more like a community than it does just a chat room. So it almost feels like, you know, when we turn that on and start playing, you know, we see people come on and it's, like, seeing our friends pop up.

16:07ZachWe don't get a ton of negativity, luckily, because that can happen with some of the bigger streamers. And they have something that's called, like, a few moderators in there that'll kind of try to handle that. So, but, I mean, that's been our vibe as a band in general is just, like, you know, it is the theme of positivity and, like, just welcoming, you know, community, which is pretty cool. I mean, within the Twitch and the Discord channel that we have, like, everyone is just super kind. And that's what we want, you know? And it is cool when they jump in, even though they don't, like, they won't say a lot of negative things, but it's nice when they say, like, that section was dope.

16:44TomBecause we might not realize it or we might not think of that as, you know, something that's better than something else we jam. But when someone in chat's like, I loved that slowed down section you did or whatever. Right. And then you can talk to them and be like, okay, sweet. Well, like, let's do another thing like that. You know what I mean? You get that real-time feedback, which is super cool to have.

17:06HostIt's a movement. It's not a cult.

17:09lLOYVKtmLcYThat's right. It can be both. It can be both.

17:13HostWell, yeah, but actually, I didn't know about the, I mean, it makes sense about the Discord channel, but I didn't see it on your website that you don't have the icon. Or maybe I just missed it.

17:23ZachIt might not be on our website. Actually, good call. Because we put it on our Instagram and we'll post about it every once in a while just across all the social media. But, yeah.

17:32HostYeah, I should have.

17:33ZachIt's not something that I need to work on, so I'm going to write that down. Yeah, you go work on that now, okay? We'll handle the rest of the interview. See you guys later.

17:40HostYeah, that's what I do with each interview. I just break down all the bullshit that people are not doing and just giving smack for them.

17:50ZachMinus one point for us right now. Got it.

17:52HostNo, but guys, like, what you're doing, like, outside music, right, it's, it's, like, really intense. You know, all the interviews. Like, I realized that, like, all the interviews you do, like, you're doing, like, really professionally, like, really, like, on the point. I mean, if you have the same questions, you can, of course, practice them. I understand. But still, you know, like, there's a lot of work that's going on. I mean, slowly getting, slowly getting to the Mastodon level.

18:22lLOYVKtmLcYWe're trying, man. We're trying.

18:24HostIt's still, is it still a dream to open for Mastodon?

18:27lLOYVKtmLcYOh, yeah.

18:28TomYeah, big time. You kidding me? I wonder what those guys are like in real life, man. It's, like, you see, you see Brent Hines.

18:36lLOYVKtmLcYIs he, do you think he's a madman, like, 24-7 off the, off the cam?

18:41?I.

18:42TomYeah, it's hard to say. Yeah, I think he's got to be. I don't know. But you never know. They just have such big personalities. I'm like, man, you know, they got it down. I want to see, I want to see what it's like to hang with those dudes sometime. That would be super cool.

18:54?Yeah.

18:55HostI'm pretty sure that you're going to do it quite soon. I mean, how it's going, you know? Well, I mean, it's, it's, it's a slow buildup kind of, but everything is solid on a good level. You're doing it great. I mean, I wish you all the best with that. Thank you.

19:09?Yeah.

19:10HostBy the way, like, regarding the magnetic eye records, right? Are there any plans regarding the, I mean, if you can say, like Redux stuff also, like, because they do a lot of cover compilations, anything planned where you can be involved also?

19:25?So we did a ton of those for a little while.

19:28ZachUh, so because they kept on asking, we kept on saying yes. And then eventually the label head was like, we got to stop and give other bands a chance. And we were like, that's fine. That's fine. But then they would still ask us and they would ask us and we're like, well, of course we're going to do it. Uh, so I think the embargo has been lifted recently. So we, we got an email with a few options and I think we're going to go over and see, uh, what we have time for basically. And what we have time to work on and record, but I know they've got a few in the works. I just can't say anything about what they are right now. Yeah.

19:59HostYeah. Yeah. Regarding them. Of course, there will know. We, we don't want to know. We don't want to know.

20:03lLOYVKtmLcYZach, spill it. You've got the intent. Tell us now here.

20:07ZachIt's a, it's a Teletubbies live redux.

20:11HostSo dude, I called it mashup of Justin Bieber and Taylor Swift, my favorite musicians.

20:16lLOYVKtmLcYI would do that.

20:19HostUh, I want to quickly like talk about the European tour, right? Because I interviewed heavy temple, which was your body bands, uh, during the European tour. I mean, how's the, I mean, I know how was the European tour for you, but you know, like a little bit more, you know, I missed the show. I was sick. Like I couldn't come to your show. So, you know, like, how was it, you know, like in Europe?

20:40SebastianIt was, it was great, man. Obviously, you know, we had ups and downs. Um, our, our van being broken into was not fun. Um, but the, the reaction that we had after that and the, uh, the GoFundMe and everything that, that, uh, people just shared constantly, it just really blew us away. So that brought the morale back up. Uh, the shows over there were, were super fun. Um, getting to play festivals in Europe is just something that I don't think we've ever thought that we would really do, you know? And so it was just kind of mind blowing. Um, and yeah, it was, it was fun. We got to have, you know, European chocolate almost every single day.

21:26ZachSo it wasn't, you say, you say, we, that was you, Sebastian.

21:30lLOYVKtmLcYThat was you, Sebastian.

21:31SebastianWe, it's a, it's a singular, we, the Royal, we, Royal, we, in, in each interview, there's

21:38Hosta little bit more about the food. I know Tom drank a lot of wine. And now I know Sebastian, like, uh, chocolate, like, uh, I mean, in reality, all of you ate a lot and drink a lot of European stuff.

21:51TomYou can tell, um, you look at me and you're like, man, that guy needs to slow down, buddy.

21:55HostNo, you just look all, all healthy, you know, like, right, right.

21:59SebastianThe big difference is because a lot of the, when we play in the U S a lot of the venues, um, you know, it's not so common to, to, uh, provide catering, um, you know, here in the U S to, to smaller bands. So when we're on the road and we go to a, uh, you know, dive bar venue over in Europe and they have like a full meal prepared for us and that somebody's grandma cooked.

22:26TomWell, and I think we should shout out a couple of those meals real quick, just before we move on from, from this section.

22:32ZachA hundred percent. Yeah.

22:35lLOYVKtmLcYGiacomo in Viereggio at, uh, what was the name of that venue? Gob.

22:40TomDo you remember Zach?

22:41ZachYeah. Yeah. It was gone to beat you. Gob. Yeah. Right. Yes.

22:44lLOYVKtmLcYUh, man, he, what did, I can't, what did he make us? So we, that was like just after.

22:50TomThat was like just after we had our van broken into. So we were in like, or spirits, we were not feeling great.

22:57lLOYVKtmLcYAnd he shows up and says, Hey, I heard about what happened to you and your van.

23:01TomI'm going to take care of you guys tonight. I've been spending all day making this lasagna. He's like, I made this and this and this. He had like a couple different dishes and we had done it. It's like one of the most amazing meals I've had. I feel like, and who knows how long.

23:15?And I feel like I weigh a thousand pounds. I ate too much. We got a show. He's like, here you go. Tom gives me an espresso shot. This is like at night.

23:21lLOYVKtmLcYI'm like, okay, I see what it's about Giacomo.

23:24TomAnd then he's like, but we can't have you like so hopped up on espresso. So you got to balance it out. So he gets another one with some Sambuca in it. And it's like, dude, you got this all planned out Giacomo. Like he's got the whole meal plan. Start to finish. That, that did a lot to pick up our spirits, man. So that, that went a long way.

23:43?Yeah.

23:43ZachI think we've talked about it before, but also the vegan, uh, goulash in Sagan at Vortex was amazing. I just kept, I mean, the meal, the meal in Vienna, uh, at, why can't I think of the venue right now?

23:57?Uh, was that, what was it?

23:59HostArena. Arena. Arena.

24:01lLOYVKtmLcYYes.

24:02?Dude.

24:03ZachWhich that venue was just wild. Like an old, like, like butcher.

24:08HostIt used to be, it used to be a slaughterhouse in 1970 until 1976.

24:14lLOYVKtmLcYMan. It was cool. It was cool. Yeah.

24:17HostYeah. It's, it's a legit, uh, venue. Right. It's, uh, with, uh, and the food there is great. Oh yeah.

24:24ZachThey made that like kind of curry chicken for us.

24:27TomNow I remember that. Yeah. That was so good.

24:31ZachAnd we slept upstairs in the triple bunks.

24:34lLOYVKtmLcYThat was like, yeah.

24:35TomWell, and it was cool to look at the walls and see, you know, all the bands that wrote their names on there. Uh, some of our favorites, one that, that jumped out at me was ASG when they were touring with Ancients, uh, back in, when was that? I don't know when that would have been. Yeah. Probably 2009 or something like that. But yeah. But we played with Ancients, which is a great band from, uh, not Toronto, um, Vancouver.

25:00lLOYVKtmLcYVancouver.

25:00?Yeah.

25:00TomUh, in Canada. And they were just so dope. And yeah, it was just cool to see them and ASG and like Weed Eater and all these guys that we know from back home being like, man, so cool that they've been here too. Yeah.

25:13lLOYVKtmLcYA little piece of history for sure.

25:15?Nice.

25:16HostSo you, so you wrote, so we can find your, uh, band name somewhere on the walls there, right?

25:21TomHowling Giant is, is written on the walls, baby. You gotta find it for yourself.

25:25HostAll right. All right. So I'm going to do a next interview there, so I'm going to look for it.

25:30?Perfect.

25:32HostAll right, guys. Um, what's the plan? So you're like preparing for the North American tour right now, which is starting in March, I think?

25:40ZachYeah. Around March 12th, I think is the start.

25:42HostYeah. Because I will release this episode the next couple of days, just edit it and all the people know about it. Nice. So you're going North America, Canada also, I think?

25:53ZachNo Canada in this one. Uh, we're working on another tour that we'll announce in the next, hopefully a couple months, uh, in the fall that we're going to cover a lot more of the, the spots that we're not hitting with the obsessed, um, this spring. So, and some festivals later in the fall as well, hoping to, we're working on our, our guys working on another European tour. We're hoping to be back this year. We're not sure yet, but, uh, for sure we will be back as soon as we can.

26:21HostYeah. And, uh, you, you said that you're planning to go, you will, you would like to go to the Northern part of Europe this time.

26:28lLOYVKtmLcYYeah. Yeah.

26:29HostYeah. Sweden, Norway, and all those countries.

26:32lLOYVKtmLcYSweet, man. Yeah.

26:33ZachBut I want to, I want to go play arena again. Cause I'm just, that, that was a cool spot.

26:38lLOYVKtmLcYSo I'm sure we will.

26:40HostI'm, I'm pretty sure if you come and they will even put you in a bigger, in the biggest one, uh, hall. I won't be surprised. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. I won't be surprised. I won't be surprised. That wouldn't be dope. All right. The tour is coming European. I mean, we're still going to see each other, hopefully sometime next year, this year. But, uh, uh, are you concentrating right now only on the tour? Are you still working on new stuff? I mean, this album just came out, but you recorded this album like one a year, almost two years ago.

27:12ZachRight. I mean, some of that, some of the songs, the ideas were three or four years old at that point. Um, we've been accumulating and, and I think we've talked about this a little bit before where we overwrote for this record. So we actually wrote 18 songs. Uh, so yeah, it was hard to cut them all down. Um, last July, we started recording another project, just another record. And we actually just got back from the studio, um, a second time, a studio in Texas that our, our guy who plays keys on the record owns. Um, so we're, we're always working on something new. Um, that's just kind of the cycle of things. And it's just funny when something like last feature comes out, because like, we're thinking back to some of these songs being like Twitch streams in the middle of the pandemic during the shutdown. Uh, so it's cool to be able to tour on that from something that we, no one was sure it was happening around then. So, but yeah, we're always working on new tunes and, uh, excited to be able to share that hopefully sooner than later. So yeah.

28:13HostAny music video spent, uh, you have like really sick promotional stuff, like with music video, animated music video, for example, that was great.

28:22ZachOh yeah. Yeah. Um, we got one more music video for glass future that will be coming out, I think towards the end of February. So it'll, it'll be the last of all the videos for glass future. Um, and I, I'm pretty sure the label said it was going to be the last week of February.

28:37HostYeah. I mean, just before the, before the tour. Yeah. It makes a little sense. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I wanted to ask also about the, quickly about the, the game, right? I didn't.

28:47ZachOh, the, the video game on the site. Yeah. The comment writer. Well, it's.

28:52lLOYVKtmLcYYeah. Yeah.

28:54HostI mean, uh, there, there's not many beds who have it, like, like something like that. It would be cool if you would have made like one more.

29:02TomYeah. Yeah. It would have been sweet. We're, we're open to that idea for sure. I would definitely do more games.

29:08lLOYVKtmLcYWith, with, with cowbell.

29:10TomYeah. It's a cowbell RPG, you know, the quest for the cowbell.

29:16lLOYVKtmLcYOr you are a cowbell.

29:18HostOr you are a cowbell. Oh my God. The possibilities are endless. What we can do. That's right. All right, guys. I don't want to bother you too much. I mean, I got what I wanted. Um, which song should I put at the end of this interview, which is a good introduction to your band?

29:35lLOYVKtmLcYJuggernaut.