Jake "Preacher" Cavaliere

0:10HostWelcome to Interceptor Beyond Podcast. My name is Arthur. And today, as if you already read, we have lords of Altamont. Talk to Jake, a super cool dude. Recorded at Chelsea, in Vienna, Austria, right outside of the venue, right after the gig. And man, it was fucking a fun recording. One of the best. You're in for the treat. Anyway, before we dive into our conversation, I'd like to remind you about our upcoming live talk show, The Interceptor Beyond Show, which takes place once a month at the Renewaisel. And the next show is on August 12th, Saturday. It is a late night talk show. A conversation with the music industry pros, man. I'm gonna ask them funny stuff about their live play trivia games, wouldn't they? And they don't win anything. You win. We have one episode online as a video. There's one as an audio, but there's a video. So you can watch it on YouTube and Spotify. And you get on a meeting. All the rules are there. You get the idea. August 12th, Saturday at the Renewaisel. Come to the place, man. Like hangout. It's gonna be fun. See you there. Also, don't forget to follow our podcast on Spotify, YouTube or any other platform of your choice. Please take a moment to rate our show on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. And don't forget to follow us on Instagram at Interceptor Beyond. All right. Now, let's talk Jake.

1:40HostHey, Jake. How are you doing? We need to tell people that we're recording right after the show. You're tired. I'm fucked up because I was like having like, I don't know, four or five Guinnesses while waiting for you. Oh, I'm so sorry, man. No, no, no, no. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's absolutely fine. The show was amazing. Absolutely. You killed it. I think people really loved it. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've been in this country for three hours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had a long drive from which country? Italy. Yeah, Ravenna. Ravenna for 10 hours. See, you say that like maybe you're from there. No, I'm not from there, but I already, dude, I'm making research all the time. You know, like I talked to Natasha and she's like, yeah, sorry, we were traveling for 10 hours. I was like, okay, 10 hours. Okay. I know that. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, I know your tour and I know that you like travel. Yeah. Yes. Intense. How are you feeling? No tense. No tense. No tense. But how are you feeling, man? Because the show was amazing. How are you feeling?

3:16HostYou know, what's interesting? You were recently on tour in Europe and you didn't come here. And I posted, wait, wait, wait, I posted on Instagram. Why, why, why, why not Austria? And somebody, I don't know who's in charge of Instagram. A really hot girl. Wait, wait, wait, wait. And somebody on Instagram wrote immediately like, I'm sorry, it didn't work out. And then this person deleted this comment immediately. Oh, really? Yeah. So it just didn't, I, I realized that it just didn't work out, you know, like, like, so you tried coming here, I know, because I could see that you want to come here, but it just didn't work out.

4:17HostWe need, well, today is the day of history because it changed the shit.

4:24HostYeah. Did it change much? Did you notice stuff for what, for you?

4:32HostWhat about people? Did they change?

4:50HostYeah, and we need to give a shout out to Wild Evil for doing the post.

4:59HostReally? Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know who's the organizer.

5:25HostYeah, scheduling conflicts didn't work out. But at least you came here, you played live with Lord.

5:42HostIt's like, uh, this sweet, nice taste of rock and roll, you know, like, uh, when we're talking about rock and roll, it's like the, we're talking about probably the same thing with the spirit of the rock and roll, you know, like.

6:02HostAbsolutely, yeah.

6:09HostAnd she just came here recently, like, full stadium, like, whatever, like, sold out, whatever.

6:18HostRock and rock and roll, man. Pink. That's, well, at least you said pink and not, like, I don't know, Lil Uzi.

6:29HostYou need to watch TikTok to understand what it is.

6:35HostDude, if you're, like, older than 10, you're too old.

6:46HostDon't worry about it.

6:50HostWe're having, we're having, what's your name? What's your name?

7:02HostWe're recording in an interview.

7:07?I'm not gonna say anything.

7:08HostIf you have, but, but, you can sit here, but if you have some... Are you a fan of Lords? What's that? Are you a fan of this band, of the Lords of the Outland?

7:28HostWait, wait, wait, wait, this is super awkward, I know, but look, you're allowed here to sit, to sit here.

7:38HostNo, no, no, no, if you have, if you have some inside questions that I don't know and internet doesn't know and you can ask, shut out, all right? Okay. So, you have time to think. All right. So, the answer is 42.

7:53?42. Here you go.

7:55HostFor, you know, like when you have a number for a groupie, you know, for the two, think about it. Anyways, let's come back to your band.

8:08HostSex, rock and rock and roll.

8:11HostPink, yes. So your latest album came out like two years ago, something like this, as I remember.

8:23HostRecorded and published at Heavy Psych Records.

8:31HostYeah, I mean, they took all of your albums and re-released them. They totally fucked up my research.

8:41HostGabe is playing like for Black Rainbows.

8:54HostBut it's absolutely amazing. I mean, as I said, it fucks up the Spotify algorithm. Right, right, right.

9:09HostWith covers, mastering, or how do you want?

9:19HostWhy didn't you work out the first time?

9:24?First one?

9:41Host2001, something like that.

9:51HostNo, 70 years plus the death of the artist, you have time.

9:59HostI know you want to be Robert Johnson to be in public domain, but for that you need to sell your...

10:10HostYou know, I just had, like, half a month ago, an interview with the Melvins. With who?

10:16?Melvins.

10:18HostAnd, you know, after doing research, I realized I shouldn't ask about grunge at all, you know, like, or nirvana. So, I didn't even ask them about nirvana or grunge, because everybody is asking that stuff, because everybody has this opinion that somebody is stealing or whatever. Yeah, right. The grunge is overused. Right now, it's, like, super hot, right? It's, like, it came back. Do you feel that it came back, like, the grunge? Yeah, like... In L.A., for example.

10:53HostExactly, exactly. It came back, but in a super pop way, you know? What about, what do you think about rock and roll as rock and roll, you know?

11:04HostLike, how did it, you know, how does it feel, like, right now, you know, if we compare it to grunge, which became, like, super popular, that even, like, kids wear it now? And about the classic rock and roll, Robert Johnson, music that you are playing at the moment, you know, what's the state of that?

11:20?Man, you know, I sit every day with kids, right? Because I do tattoos, right? And I sit with kids every day, and I try to, like, understand what they're listening to, you know? Like, what do you guys like? And every fucking kid says the same thing. I like a little bit of everything. I'm like, what does that mean?

11:54HostYou know what's funny? I just recently started to go into country music, like, deep into it.

12:03HostHank Williams, but I got into the country because of Hank Williams III. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hank III.

12:16HostYeah, yeah, yeah. Stage manager, guitarist, tech.

12:23HostIf you want to tell, man, everybody's asking you the Cramps stories, but if you want to tell.

12:37HostYes. Yes, that's...

12:52HostAnd you also have them here at the show. Yeah, for me.

13:19HostYeah, but they were super nice. It was what I heard from Hank III. Super nice, but crazy.

13:27HostYeah, super respectful to fans and to people and everybody, but crazy and shit.

14:16HostYeah, but it's this thing. It happens all the time. It's just people don't know about it. But like that. Especially in show business, what's called a show business, music industry. There are many characters around, and you've seen a lot of stuff. I mean, probably you don't see a lot of stuff. I mean, not only cramps, but everybody else. But, yeah, it's just the way it is. Anyways. They're good people.

14:41?No.

14:43HostWhat about the new music? Okay.

14:48HostYeah, yeah, yeah. Rock and roll. But rock and roll wasn't like in general. But I'm interested. So, you recorded the live album, right? The live music, right? Yeah, yeah.

15:02HostYeah, that's what I mean. Was there like live audience a little bit of that?

15:30?Right. But you know what? What, like, on Tuesday, Emma Ruth Rundle.

15:35HostDo you know Emma Ruth? Emma Ruth Rundle, no?

15:39HostAmerican solo show. I wanted to interview with her, but she couldn't make it anyways. I'm going to her show anyways. But she has a live album. And what makes it special is between the songs she talks to the audience, right?

15:56HostAnd in those moments when she talks to the audience, how important it is to her to perform live from that audience, that makes it special. You know, it's not even like the music. I mean, it's great, but altogether, the experience, how she feels at that moment, those people, and why she's playing that, that makes it like a super nice live ball. Right. So for me, it's like, I never cared about live albums, honestly. But when I heard this, like, just a couple of days ago, it's like, oh, I didn't even know that you can go so deep. That's how funny.

17:04HostOh, they're great, especially on YouTube when you can even watch it. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's great.

17:19HostWell, today you said, like, everything is all right. I mean, it's like, no, no. No, because one of the questions was, like, I mean, because you have a nice show, you know? What's the name of your synthesizer organ instrument? Farfisa.

17:35?Yeah? Farfisa.

17:43HostYou know, like, I've seen it being bumped left, right, up, down, in all kinds of positions, like the Kamasutra of organ playing, man.

17:55HostYeah, yeah. But first of all, great tech, because it keeps, it's like, it's not getting broken down, I guess, right?

18:08?It stays with him.

18:09HostDo you practice live show at home alone, you know, like, the moves and stuff? Everything is live.

18:17HostExperience.

18:19HostExperience and live.

18:21HostI thought so. You don't look like...

18:26HostI've been playing for a long time, I know.

18:35HostYeah, I know. I checked. I've seen... In the beginning, it was five, then... Okay, yeah.

18:52HostBut retiring because you're feeling old or something? Or it's just a creative thing?

19:24?Well, I mean, they're... Well, that's what I figure out

19:28Hostby doing interviews with musicians, you know. Like, it's not that your songs are worse or better than others. It's just who you are

19:38Hostand the general feel is, like, aligned or not, you know, at some point, you know. Everybody's, like, super talented. It's just sometimes it just matches, like, so perfectly, like, in Iggy Pop or somebody's, like, place.

20:07HostWell, you're also doing that in the way.

21:02HostNo, I think right now we need musicians like you more than ever. We got the Melvins.

21:12HostOh, the Melvins. Yeah. But what I mean is, like, because you're not the only one who's feeling it. Like, there's something, there's something that's weird about us, you know? So, there are a lot of people who need music like yours and musicians like you to feel complete, let's say, like, right? I appreciate that. Because they also, like, I also see, like, okay, this TikTok stuff, like, give me something, like, give me, like, nice, juicy rock and roll feel, you know? Yeah, yeah, some substance.

21:41HostIt's just, okay, the audience shrank down, right? But still, there's, I mean, you've seen it today, you know, like, we have fans, we have, say hello.

21:50?Hi. We have groupies.

22:22HostI don't think it's dead, it's just got washed, like, watered down by all the other stuff, you know, there's so much stuff in the world right now, absolutely. That's it.

22:37Hostkind of, kind of.

22:41?Yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:52?Awkward.

22:56HostYeah, so, in a way, in a way, it got more difficult, but at the same time, there's more demand, which is, like, like, oxymoron, paradoxical thing, I believe. the problem right now is to find the right people that dig your music and new stuff. That is hard. Yes.

23:19?Yeah, once again, I just follow the path of being a fan. You know,

23:26HostPretty much, I agree.

24:01HostYeah, absolutely. I mean, there's not, nobody like super influential at the moment.

24:18HostWe have pop stuff, maybe a little bit of rock, but it turns into pop immediately.

24:29HostI remember when, as soon as Machine Gun Kelly went pop, I thought, like, okay, not pop, pop punk, right? Everybody were playing with the idea of pop punk.

24:45HostEverybody, Miley Cyrus, Machine Gun Kelly, and the, what's the other name, guys? Anyways, everybody were playing with, and then slowly died down. I don't know where it's at.

24:58HostYeah, anyway. So, okay, we need to, like, finish it sometime. I mean, it's really great, but I need to let you, like, do your stuff. You've been only here three and a half hours. What's the plan for The Lords at the moment?

25:20?New album?

25:23?Ending?

25:25HostDepends on your physical.

25:33Hostwhat's the hardest part? Touring, or is it writing in the same energy? Health.

25:49HostHave you tried changing it some, some way?

26:19HostI think, well, at the moment, you're having like, classic artist dilemma. Does anybody care or not?

26:28HostI know, I know, I know, I know. But one of those points is that you, you, you're doing, of course. But yeah, it's a legit question. Yeah, of course, how long can you make it? But at the same time, Rolling Stones can do it for a long time and not a problem.

26:46HostOkay, it's your artistic

26:48Hostself-deprecation. No,

26:57Hostyou write the music that you like, otherwise, it's not gonna work.

27:01?But for me, it's just the reality. I mean, it's not painful to me. Oh my God, please love my songs. I mean, if you like them, cool. If you don't, I like them, cool. You know, sometimes I don't like them, but most of the time I like them. If I spent money on recording them. No, but I wish I had

27:25?Of course. You know it?

27:34Hostwhat's the name of the band? The band is called

27:45HostOkay, so, okay, okay, so the problem is not that you can't make stuff.

27:53HostYou know how many times people told me during these interviews, you know? But it's not a problem that you're creatively on the bottom. No, it's just the music genre and this kind of music that you're playing with the lords demands a little bit of a different type of personality. And you see that you're a little bit not in that way, maybe. Like, not in that state, maybe. Or you just creatively want to try, you want to do different kind of music. Because it's highly possible that you will make more stuff with your other bands and then you will come back to the lords. Because you need to come back and forth, you know?

28:37?Hip-hop rap?

28:40?Great.

28:47HostI thought, I thought like, like a kebab rap. I want to be like,

28:53HostI was thinking like food rap.

29:06HostAll right. So let's leave it to the open question. You know, like we don't know. It's highly possible that you will record. By seeing it in your eyes, I see that you can still, it's just, you're like, okay, thinking about it, if I can, if I can, not. I mean,

29:30?October?

29:31HostAlso, Also? No,

29:39HostEach time you need to find a new city and then come back after like, you need to sit. Yeah,

29:56?who knows?

29:58HostAll right, Jake, I don't want to bother you too much. We'll be ready talking about about this for like half an hour more than I expected. So, what song should I put at the end of this interview of Lord of Doubt Amongst?

30:13HostNo, wrong band, no, your band. A good introduction to your band.

30:26Host1999.

30:28?2023.

30:47HostYou know, like, I interview a lot of musicians, same thing, everybody looks so young and everybody's asking, like, what the fuck? I'm like, it's obvious, they're doing the stuff that they love.

30:58?Rock and roll,

31:01HostNo, no, no, but really, like, everybody, like, Melvins, they look amazing. How high as we are.

31:11?Oh.

31:18?Oh,

31:20?Ah.

31:21HostPerfect. I love creepy stuff like that. Anyways, I forgot what we were talking about, but.

31:28?Could have made it.

31:31?I'll cut it out. I couldn't hear.

31:33HostI also couldn't hear, but the recorder picks it up listening on the recording. Anyways, potential. Oh, yeah. Some that we'll need to put at the end of the interview. Lots of lots of months. Older or newer?

31:47HostGood introduction. What's the biggest hit? The Split.

31:50?The Split, yeah.

31:56HostAll right. Say the title of the song with emotion and attitude. Miles Davis.

32:03HostNo, no, Miles Davis style. Just say it like, no, no, I'm joking. Just say the title of the song with attitude.

32:12?Yeah, yeah, The Split. Perfect. The Split.

32:17?Perfect.